24" street w/ gyro?

[Brizn]

Just thinking about possible bikes. Dreaming about a 24" street or 4x-style bike that I could throw a gyro on, and maybe some pegs. Maybe even a rigid fork. A big-kid's bmx bike that would harken back to my freestyle days. 20" too small. Is this even within the realm of possibility?? Haven't had tyme to research the prospect yet.

I would definitely want a cable detangler.. I don't know if they make this component for this type of bike.. I guess I could do an ol' "pots mod" of sorts for the front brake cable..

I wanna do tailwhips and manuals and abubacas and rockwalk off of ledges and barspin off curbs 'n stuff.

[crack monkey]

Do you need gears?

The 2006 Haro Thread One is a 26" version of what you want. Detangler for the rear brake, no front brake (but the headset cap and starnut are hollow, so you can pass a cable through). I bought one for my son for Christmas and we both like it. It could be a bit lighter, but I guess heavy is good if you're going airborne.

The Dk General Lee comes in a 24" version. No detangler as-delivered, but you should be able to add one. And it's only $270ish.

All of the Evil frames can be used with 24" wheels, but the frames are pricey compared to a 24" BMX.

[jabberwocky]

Sounds like you want a BMX cruiser. I would check the BMX/Dirt jumping forum over at Ridemonkey, and the Urban/Dj forum on MTBR.

Also, check the For Sale forum on DCstreet. I think I saw a BMX cruiser for sale there recently.

Let me know what you get. I've been toying with the idea of getting some sort of BMX bike for park riding.

[Brizn]

Hey goodlookinout. No gears. 26 vs 24: i'm lookin for something i could throw around a little more..and something that's decidedly smaller than the mtbs i'm riding now-- hence I'm considering 24. will not be launching or anything, just maybe curbs and ledges.. but I'm a bigger dude as well.

thanks for the headsup on these bikes... will research!

[urbaindk]

Hey goodlookinout. No gears. 26 vs 24: i'm lookin for something i could throw around a little more..and something that's decidedly smaller than the mtbs i'm riding now-- hence I'm considering 24. will not be launching or anything, just maybe curbs and ledges.. but I'm a bigger dude as well.

thanks for the headsup on these bikes... will research!


I'm looking at getting a DK General Lee for all the same reasons as you. It can be had pretty cheap at $260. It needs a few upgrades but they can be dealt with on an "as it breaks" basis. I think at that price + the good reviews, it's a good way to get started and see if you like it and upgrade it later.

http://www.dkbicycles.com/bikes/bikes.html

http://www.konasports.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=50451

Reviews:
http://www.mtbr.com/reviews/2003_bmx/product_121591.shtml

A recent RM thread: http://www.ridemonkey.com/forums/showthread.php?t=174289

Plus it's the GENERAL LEE! You can ride around yelling "Yeee Haaaaaa" at the top of your lungs and pretend you're getting chased by Rosco P. Coletrain.

[Brizn]

Yo thx man.. I just happened across that RM thread and saw your posts.. and saw you in the classifieds as well... Thx for the useful links.. The "24 inches of Love" thread is a helpful start as well. I'll head over to DCstreet and spend some time before long.

I'm new to investigating this type of bike.. so I'm really not even aware of the makes and specs and design and everything. Getting some ideas now though.. Union Street Bikes, Sun Country, Tonic.... Jabberwocky, does Evil make a SS specific frame or do they all have the patented sliding hanger?

[jabberwocky]

Jabberwocky, does Evil make a SS specific frame or do they all have the patented sliding hanger?My Evil (D.O.C.) has the sliding hangers. Its ridiculously easy to run it SS if you want. I don't know how the spacing works if you want to use a freewheel, but I imagine it can be done. Evil is very responsive to emails, so if you have a specific configuration question I would fire them a quick email.

The thing to keep in mind is that I'm pretty sure that if you want pegs, you need to run BMX hubs and axles. Evil's bikes (and most other 24"-26" DJ bikes) are spaced for MTB hubs. I think they are different, although I could be wrong.

[rodnreel729]

Umm, hello...

http://www.more-mtb.org/forum/showthread.php?t=6607

I can throw they gryo back on there if you like and I have pegs that go with it...eh, eh, eh. :D

--Kevin

[Brizn]

Gotcha. Upon a cursory review of some of the makes listed herein, many of them are using a 110mm BMX spacing.. 14mm axles. I'll continue to learn up on this.. As you point out, it's an important detail.

PS: the thing that concerns me most is whether or not i should get funky-odd colored pedals and matching brake lines or not. :rolleyes:

[Brizn]

Umm, hello...

http://www.more-mtb.org/forum/showthread.php?t=6607

I can throw they gryo back on there if you like and I have pegs that go with it...eh, eh, eh. :D

--KevinPM'ing

10 characters 'n all

[jabberwocky]

Gotcha. Upon a cursory review of some of the makes listed herein, many of them are using a 110mm BMX spacing.. 14mm axles. I'll continue to learn up on this.. As you point out, it's an important detail.Yeah, there seems to be 2 classes of 24" bikes: the downsized 26" urban/dj mountainbikes, and the upsized bmx bikes. The 24" bmx bikes seem to be called "bmx cruisers" by a lot of people. They run standard bmx parts (hubs, cranks, etc.) so they would be a better choice if you want pegs and stuff because all the parts are designed to work with them. The 24" mountainbikes mostly seem to be designed to work with mountainbike parts and derailleurs and stuff. You may be able to get pegs onto one (I really don't know), but its probably easier to get something BMX compatible.

PS: the thing that concerns me most is whether or not i should get funky-odd colored pedals and matching brake lines or not. :rolleyes:Dork. :)

[Brizn]

Dork. :)just tryin to stay hip, is all. :rolleyes: :D

[jabberwocky]

just tryin to stay hip, is all. :rolleyes: :DThats ok, because...

http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/9234/39ma5.jpg

:D

[redneckp3ngu1n]

Im sure this has been said before but im too lazy to read the whole thread so ill say it again.

Giros screw your braking performance up. Your brakes will have worse modulation and less power. I say run a long rear brake cable and a hollow star nut. If you run a long enough cable you should be able to get a barspin in each way (you can do 2 spins in the same direction at a time). As for pegs its more of a moral reason for me not to run them than a performance issue. Pegs dont belong on a mtb in my opinion. 24s im totally cool with and rigid is fine as long as you like sore wrists. Certain Frames can run pegs depending on the width of the slot for the axel. If its big enough for a bmx axel you can definatly run pegs. If not ive seen pegs jerryrigged to a mtb hub but it will take fiddling around to get it right.

I say get that p1 thats bein sold on the forums, it might not be the most amazing bike ever (its not bad just not bling) but hey its one of the best values ive seen in a loooooooooooong time. I say help rodnreel out and get something that you will enjoy

[urbaindk]

I just plunked down the old paypal on this guy:

http://www.ridemonkey.com/classifieds/showproduct.php?product=4723&cat=fav

I got him to give it to me for $400 including shipping. It's a little more than I originally wanted to spend but it includes some good upgrades. I think I can live with it. I can't wait until it gets here. :cool:

[Brizn]

that's badzss man. ninja bike.

is the drive on the left hand side? for grind clearance??

[urbaindk]

that's badzss man. ninja bike.

is the drive on the left hand side? for grind clearance??


Yeah exactly, It's LH drive with pegs on right for grinding. I'll switch it back once I get a hold of it. I like it RH drive w/ pegs on left. It's got a flip-flop hub so I can go either way I want.

[crack monkey]

Why are pegs only on one side? Does the chainring get in the way on the drive side?

[Brizn]

Why are pegs only on one side? Does the chainring get in the way on the drive side?Well first and foremost.. CURRENT FADS dictate that pegs be ran on one side and one side only. That, along w/ absent brakes, funky ugly pedals and camouflage saddles.. :cool: :eek: Ok, nuff widdat..

It's analogous to being right handed or left handed.. grinding, for most folks, is more comfortable on one side or the other. And often, kids nowadays just run pegs on one side for that reason, and to drop weight, and to narrow the bikes width in that area for clearance over spines 'n junk. Takes more skill to be ambidextrous, if you will, but running dual pegs comes at the cost of more weight, more width, and more protrusions to get in the way when airing 'n junk. And yes, when slapping a bike up against a spine/ rail/ bench/ ledge/ dumpster/ or elderlywoman'swalker to grind out those pegs, you're prone to bustin up the chainring, chain, and rear cog pretty goodly like. Hence drive one side, grind the other.

I love seeing the trends wax and wane. In 1987, it was cool to have pegs and platforms on every single free space of bike frame there was: pegs on both sides of both axles, those GT flip up flats on the fork legs (in addition to pegs), angled platforms (in addition to pegs!) on the chain stays, double tubed or flattened frame in front of and along side the seat post, and of course, last but not least: flattened crossbar on the HBars and grip on the seat-top for surfing. Also, for those way-backers, the Skyway pegs were the first pegs i remember; they were like a bunch of bolts welded together, about a halfinch in diameter. Now pegs are almost twice as long and up to 2" in diameter-- but only on one side of the bike, obviously. :cool:

[crack monkey]

Yeah, it was all about the flatland when I was a youngin. That's why I was confused to see new BMX and DJ/Urbans with "missing" pegs.

[pirate]

I just plunked down the old paypal on this guy:

http://www.ridemonkey.com/classifieds/showproduct.php?product=4723&cat=fav

I got him to give it to me for $400 including shipping. It's a little more than I originally wanted to spend but it includes some good upgrades. I think I can live with it. I can't wait until it gets here. :cool:

Cool... you gonna use this as your new BMX track bike?

[urbaindk]

Cool... you gonna use this as your new BMX track bike?

Yeah, and street / park. The guy told me he was riding and racing it at the track. With the upgrades he dropped it down to around 30 lbs which I guess is pretty good for a cromo frame. He's supposed to mail it out tomorrow although he just told me he tore two ligaments in his ankle so he might be too doped up to get to it.

There is a largely unused skate park here in Annapolis I'll take it to. Just a couple of quarters and a fun box. I think technically bikes aren't allowed but I've seen plenty of BMXers there and almost nobody ever skates there and it's largely unpatroled.

Daylight savings time kicks in Sunday morning. Do you want to try to ride over at Patapsco in the evening sometime next week?

[pirate]

Daylight savings time kicks in Sunday morning. Do you want to try to ride over at Patapsco in the evening sometime next week?

PM'd you...

[urbaindk]

I got the bike yesterday, put it together last night, and rode it to work this morning. Seems like the toughest part of riding it will be getting used to standing up all the time and pushing a 30-13 gear ratio. Ugg that hill was a bitch. I can't wait to ride it some more. (I might just have to take it out on my lunch break.)