Jets and Sharks Dirty Melee Loudoun Co Dirt Roads.

[darren]

(will be in the Nov. pedel patter) and The MORE Ride Schedule November 19, Sunday

ATB(CC-A) * 12-34 * VA * 10:30 AM* Loudoun Co. HS, Leesburg (LOU) Jets and Sharks Dirty Melee. As a biker who does most of my miles on road, but only races mtn. bikes, I feel that a dirt road ride is a good opportunity to have our two DC area bike gangs the Jets(PPTC) and the Sharks(MORE) do a joint ride. I will be on a cyclocross bike leading the "A"s and Ken from MORE will be leading on a FAT tire mtn bike leading the "B"/"CC"s. The "A"s will be doing the 34-mile route with around 2600ft elevation. There will also be a 30-mile 2000ft (dead-end hill taken out). So come on out with your cross bike, rough tourer, or your mt. bike, but please leave your switchblades and dancing shoes at home. The 30-mile route is on Routeslip
http://routeslip.com/map.php?map=10939.

Darren Biggs [ou98dtbiggs<>gmail] 571/242-7276.

[deansidr]

Sounds like fun and maybe we can even get jay out for this one. :)

[wren]

I car-scouted a good chunk of this ride over the weekend and it will be a good one. Get ready for dirt roads, centuries-old stone fences, the quaint village of Waterford, old farmhouses, horses, ponds, squirrels, a few tasteful Leesburg subdivisions, red and orange foilage, and other bucolic splendor. In other words, pump up your suspension forks and get ready to rip!

I'll be helping the slower group and shouldn't get us too lost. The roads are really suitable for mountain bikes - lots of gravel, stutter bumps, pot holes, and off-camber corners. I think there is only one short road section that has some serious car traffic and the rest is quiet country road. And as Darren noted, there is an early bail out point where you can take the W&OD trail back to the car if this ride is not up to your expectations.

Let me know if you have any questions. If you have a cross bike, hardtail, or a 29er, you will be looking good. Full suspension will be a little slow, but certainly doable if you have a good attitude. Skinny tires and road bikes are not a good idea unless you want to get beat up and pretend it is the Paris-Roubaix.

- Ken

[allencb]

Sounds interesting. I rode this route several years ago and enjoyed it. :)

Chris

[tsunayoshi]

Sounds interesting. If I feel froggy enough to do 30 miles I may just attempt this.

Did I read right that with a full-suspension you want to have the bike stiffer than you would for single-track?

-Mike.

[wren]

Did I read right that with a full-suspension you want to have the bike stiffer than you would for single-track?


Hey, Mike. I guess I kind of implied that. I normally ride with a few extra pounds of air in my front shock when I know that I will be on the road a lot. But everyone should do their own thing since everyone's bike (and preference!) differs. Do a little experimenting and hit the local bike path.

- Ken

[drewdane]

I'll be helping the slower group
Hey Ken, for those of us who aren't "hip" to the cool roadie "lingo" (AA? CC? XYQ? WTF?), could you define "slower"?

[wren]

Drew -

You don't speak roadie?!? ;) Good point, here is the link to the PPTC ride classifications:

<http://www.bikepptc.org/classification.html >

According to Darren's description, the MORE group will be riding at a B/CC pace, which translates to a 12 to 16 mph pace. I'm really hoping for a steady, easy pace that will get the slowest group finished in about 3 to 3.5 hours, with rest stops. I'm going to test ride the course in the next week or two and will report back on my actual time.

And since you asked, WTF is the ride classification for "likely to get lost and end up in West Virginia," followed by the CAKKA sprint intervals code, "Chase and Kick Ken's Ass."

- Ken


Hey Ken, for those of us who aren't "hip" to the cool roadie "lingo" (AA? CC? XYQ? WTF?), could you define "slower"?

[drewdane]

Drew -

You don't speak roadie?!? ;) Good point, here is the link to the PPTC ride classifications:

Thanks! The question now is, can I maintain that speed on a 32X20 SS 29er, or should I throw knobbies on the cross bike? Hmmmm...

Of course, that's assuming I'm let off the leash in the first place... ;)

[darren]

bring out the crossbike! That is makes this ride fun, it is more challenging on a crossbike then a mountainbike. For me the cross is interesting, cause you have to be on your toes for some sections. I have done it on a cross in snow and a Tandem with some snow sections, now that was sketchy!
-Darren

[Squirrel Girl]

I'm still hoping to make the ride. I will ride my "road" bike. I have a flat handlebar and my new tires. I forget now, but I think they're 35s, and kinda knobby on the sides, but modest tread down the center. I expect they'd be great on gravel roads (that's why I bought them).

With luck I will ride the route this weekend and will report back with my pace. I once offered to lead a more casual pace. I imagine on gravel, I'd be riding a C pace (maybe on pavement, too, considering how little I've ridden lately :rolleyes: )

[darren]

I was hoping to have the female element into the mix, funny thing is I might end up having more Sharks at the Ride-Ha There are three other A-lvl rides that day on the PPTC calendar, so we will see I know a couple of folks bringing the cross bikes. Also SG should I make a shorter option? There is the bike path ballout not sure distance maybe 20miles? Also your tires should be good, with 35mm you will still need to be on your toes, when I used the tandem I was on 42mm, and I ride 35mm on the cross, but the flat handle bar helps.

[drewdane]

... 34-mile route with around 2600ft elevation. There will also be a 30-mile 2000ft ...
Does the elevation change come in the form of a more-or-less steady climb, or is it more of a rollercoaster ride?

[darren]

Look at the ride post and the routeslip elevation graph, There are some climbs maybe the longest a 1/4 mile. Lots of up and downs though the graph give you a good idea though.

-D

[drewdane]

Look at the ride post and the routeslip elevation graph, There are some climbs maybe the longest a 1/4 mile. Lots of up and downs though the graph give you a good idea though.

-D
Ah, I see now - thanks. The site was overloaded earlier.

[ridethewomble]

So come on out with your cross bike, rough tourer, or your mt. bike, but please leave your switchblades and dancing shoes at home. The 30-mile route is on Routeslip
http://routeslip.com/map.php?map=10939.


OK - Darren gets green dots ... or gold stars ... or Buckeyes ... or whatever, for posting that ride. Great ride!

I went and reconned it in my truck yesterday after watching some of the psychlocross race. It looked so good, I came back today, and rode it.

That's a great ride. Judging from the massive profusion of McMansions on Hughesville Rd, though, I'd say get out there while you can! Unpaved roads on that section are not long for this world, I suspect!

It's great that there's a bailout to the W&OD just after Hamilton, but I think some of the best riding follows the bailout. If you can hang, it's worth it.

Comments on the ride:


Woodburn Rd., just after the start - Not warmed up? You WILL be.
Old Wheatland Rd to Waterford - Tired yet? No? How about some new gravel, then?
Old Waterford going into Leesburg - What? You got complacent about the climbs? Here's one for you!


I hope we have good weather on the 18th, because that will be a fun group ride.

Good cue sheet, BTW, darren!

[ridethewomble]

Also your tires should be good, with 35mm you will still need to be on your toes, when I used the tandem I was on 42mm, and I ride 35mm on the cross, but the flat handle bar helps.

I did the ride on a cross bike with 700x32's. I was fine. Of course, I knocked the rear wheel out-of-true, but that's because I'm a 200 lb oaf who beats the crap out of his equipment. I send that thing wobbly on the C&O, for Pete's sake.

[Zinger]

Just outta curiosity, why do the climb out of Waterford to Leesburg last?

I've ridden this route a coupla times, but always going the OTHER way, climbing Old Waterford Road FIRST... (and in the summer -- some of those descents in the winter will be c-o-l-d!)

But I agree -- this is a lovely, interesting ride...

[eloach]

I find that my Cross bike is tough to climb on, since the big ring and the small ring are so close to the same size. I have an Fuji Cross bike I picked up new for $500 and threw some Specialized Pro Armadillo 32s on it. It's quicker than my other choice, a Specialized Crossroads XC Pro, with 38s, Avid Juicy 5s, XT and a cheap shock. Which bike would you recommend for this ride?

Since the cockpit on the Specialized Crossroads XC Pro is so short (my ride to work bike) you end up with a lot of air drag (due to being quite upright) or an uncomfortable position at just over 20 mph. What is the likely speed on the "A" group on the dirt roads?

[redclayrambler]

Since there is a good chance I will be out of town when this ride takes place, I too did this ride this weekend (and I didn't think my back could handle Gambrill). I used a 29er mountain bike and was fine but slow, I do think cross bike or any kind of bike closer to a road bike with big tires would be best, as there is some pavement to ride and some of the dirt roads a pretty hard packed. With 2.30's I felt really slow.
It is rolling hills nothing too long or too steep, but I was suprised at how tired I was at the end of the ride. Some of the downhill would be a lot of fun with drop handle bars.
Just my 2cents.
Clay

[Squirrel Girl]

I was unable to do a pre-ride this weekend, but I hope to either at the end of this week or on the weekend. How as riding over Bull Run Mtn? My road bike isn't geared as low as my mountain bike.

[darren]

I got part of this ride out of a Mt. bike ride book, They went the way I routed the ride . Thinking of doing a January Version but the other way! Sid and I did some of the route, after the Cyclecross race in Leesburg, but the legs were too gone to do much of it, but I found some more dirt roads! Also the deadend for 34 miles is out, I thought it would be dirt it isn't I might add a little detour for the faster folk to get more miles. Also I am not going to hammer so I suspect something around 16mph where I usually do around 19-20 on a A (on Road)lvl ride. Since this these are roads people can go ahead if they feel spunky cause they will have a cue sheet. I will also put in where there is a rest stop in Hamelton.

-Darren

[darren]

I am a spinner and ride a 34, 48 on the cross bike with a 28 in back. I think road bike gearing is ok but all about how people ride. On road you usually just grunt your way up a hill on mt. you sometimes spin more. I guess that doesn't help

-Darren

[redclayrambler]

I was unable to do a pre-ride this weekend, but I hope to either at the end of this week or on the weekend. How as riding over Bull Run Mtn? My road bike isn't geared as low as my mountain bike.

I'm 47, not sure about my average speed on the road, I did a century in 6.5hrs including stops if that helps, but part of that I was drafting a pace line.
Any way, Saturday I climbed everything in the middle chainring on my 29er.
That's with a 32 cog in the back, nothing felt terriably hard at all until I started getting tired, then it was a bit more of a slog, but I still never had to use the little chain ring.
I have a touring bike that will fit fat tires and if I did this ride again I would throw some fatties on it and use it. It has a road triple though, so I would still have a bailout if I really needed it.
Guess I'm not helping either :rolleyes:

[tsunayoshi]

Drew -

According to Darren's description, the MORE group will be riding at a B/CC pace, which translates to a 12 to 16 mph pace. I'm really hoping for a steady, easy pace that will get the slowest group finished in about 3 to 3.5 hours, with rest stops. I'm going to test ride the course in the next week or two and will report back on my actual time.

- Ken

If anyone is taking a count of attendees add me in with the MORE group. This morning I did 16 miles on asphalt with my full-suspension mtb and managed to do it on about 1.5 hours. Sort of my test to see if I should even try this ride although it wasn't at all hilly (in Chesapeake, VA). Hopefully there are enough downhills to make up for the uphills. :D

[darren]

When I road the first part of the ride, the dirt roads, were in great shape, so the thinner tires are the better bet. If you have a triple or mountain bike gearing no problem. The issue is the peeps with a 39-53 11-21 in back that show up, they are usually hurting on some of the hills. These are hills on the ride not mountains so it is the repetiveness that wears your legs down. Scouting a section that I might add for the fast folk that I think is dirt.

[darren]

was thinking of having the MORE tradition MTB thing of drinking beer afterwards. The
only place I can think of is Tuscarora Mill we could go to the bar area(bring some clothes to change into) here is there beer list http://www.tuskies.com/beer.htm It is a pretty good selection. Well people can decide at the ride start.

-Darren

[drewdane]

was thinking of having the MORE tradition MTB thing of drinking beer afterwards. The
only place I can think of is Tuscarora Mill we could go to the bar area(bring some clothes to change into) here is there beer list http://www.tuskies.com/beer.htm It is a pretty good selection. Well people can decide at the ride start.

-Darren
Sounds great! Looks a little on the less-casual side, though - any tips on attire?

[darren]

I think whatever is fine, but getting people out of their Lycra or dirty bike clothes to jeans and a sweatshirt/polorfleece is a good bet, and not wearing dirty bike shoes into the place

[eloach]

Well, my cyclo is 39-48, so I may be one of those peeps if I can make it to the ride and decide to bring the cylco.

Heck, I am always up for a good workout!

[drewdane]

What's the scoop if the weather's bad? I assume gravel roads aren't subject to the same sensitivities as singletrack, so we're good as long as it isn't coming down?

[Squirrel Girl]

What's the scoop if the weather's bad? I assume gravel roads aren't subject to the same sensitivities as singletrack, so we're good as long as it isn't coming down?Dood. Cars drive on 'em when it's raining.

;)

[Squirrel Girl]

Oh, but I should add, that afterwards we might have to

WASH OUR BIKES!

[drewdane]

Dood. Cars drive on 'em when it's raining.

;)
I figured, but you never know - my dad used to live on a dirt road that became an utter swamp when it rained.

[Buddylee]

Rain will make it wet, but you can still ride it.... like SG said, cars are on them either way.

Wear Glasses!!!

I wish I could join you guys out there, these are fun roads to ride.

[darren]

We will head to Vintage after the ride. It is a wine/beer bar that has 5/6 microbrews on tap(brew master from a capcity brewery) Also the place should work better for us.

Now my bike situation---------------

It started two weeks ago when I took my mt. bike to get worked on at bikelane. Well the guys said it had a crack in it, so it is getting warrentied(great guys)

No biggie just ride my crossbike on the easier trails around the area, then
I was cleaning my Crossbike yesterday morning and found a crack around
almost half of the seat-tube right above the bottom bracket weld. So
I got to figure out what to do. There is a big Bianchi dealer near
where I work Citybikes, I don't know if I will be able to get a new frame from
Bianchi for this will have to see. I don' t have the original receipt and I have heard Bianchi can be a pain about these things.

So with two bikes out of the stable I am left with two other options:

-My Tandem, which I can put 42mm tires on it and have done this ride on it. But I would need someone to ride with me and have to be under 145lbs- the bike has a titanium suspension beam in the back that is weighted for different rider weights for suspension properties.

-I have my 30 year old fixed gear, the tires are big enough and be cross tires.
but that gear would kill me. I would be will be a slow mess on the ride with the ups, downs, and little flat of the ride.

-The third option is to barrow my best friends bike that was my bike(I sold it to him) so I know it fits. The bike can fit 30mm speedmax tires on it, not the 35mm I had planned to ride. Also I have to put a new drivetrain, cassette, chain, and crank on it cause the other is worn out.

[TrailVictim]

What size CX do you ride? I might be able to hook a brother up.

[darren]

their will be 3 ride lengths one around 38-40miles, one around 32miles and the shorter one where you shortcut back on the W&OD trail I think around 25ish. The extra miles come into picture, cause I put the rest stop in Hamalton, but it added some mileage.

Should be a good time!!!

-D

[darren]

I think my best friend/roomate bike will work, might be a little slower on the downhills.

[TrailVictim]

Mine would be small, I run a 54.

[riderx]

-I have my 30 year old fixed gear, the tires are big enough and be cross tires.
but that gear would kill me. I would be will be a slow mess on the ride with the ups, downs, and little flat of the ride.
Swap the gear to something appropriate for the ride. Quickest, easiest, cheapest solution.

[philman]

I got some headset problems straightened out on my Bianchi yesterday so think I'll join you folks on Sunday. Might be good day for a fender....

Pat

[darren]

I am riding the sport touring bike with 30mm tires should be fine.


they are 20miles 30miles and 37miles.

you can decide at the rest stop if you want to do the 20mile version compared to the 30mile. The 37 mile has 7 extra miles before the rest stop. the cue sheets and map will be at the ride start.
the files are located at :


Short
http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=p65q2RxAubS5hx21DZ-iiVg


Med
http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=p65q2RxAubS7aS_wxjl0PAA

Long
http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=p65q2RxAubS7-D0eoZ5bwLg

[ridethewomble]

Darren,

I looks like the long route is the one you posted on Routeslip (http://routeslip.com/map.php?map=10927) plus an out-and-back on Shelburne Glebe Rd. Is that right?

When do we gather in the Loudon High parking lot?

[Squirrel Girl]

When do we gather in the Loudon High parking lot?His first post says 10:30.

[darren]

I will be getting ther around 10am and we are doing the road biker thing and trying to leave at 10:30 so get there ready to ride at 10:30 the A's will leave first cause they have the extra 6miles to the rest stop. I will bring cues and some maps I made as well. l I think there will be more MORE people there, so the SHARKS will win!

-D

[wren]

Great. I'll probably do the mountain biker thing and drag @ss into the parking lot at 10:35 looking for coffee to mooch, no air in my tires, and then realize I forgot my Sidis.

Seriously, I'll try to be there early and bring an air pump. Departure at 10:30 sharp. I'd love it if the Jets and the Sharks could roll out and ride together for the first, uh, 100 yards? Then you can do the road biker thing and drop us. ;)

I'll be in a green Isuzu Trooper and riding a tan IF 29er.

- Ken


I will be getting ther around 10am and we are doing the road biker thing and trying to leave at 10:30 so get there ready to ride at 10:30 the A's will leave first cause they have the extra 6miles to the rest stop. I will bring cues and some maps I made as well. l I think there will be more MORE people there, so the SHARKS will win!

-D

[darren]

Is too have us leave together, then that first hill will seperate us out. The idea then will be to have the Sharks wait for the Jets at the rest stop, cause we will be getting there after you guys I think. Then meet up afterwards and get some brew.

-Darren

[Squirrel Girl]

IMPORTANT! There is a mistake in these cue sheets!!!!

At mile 7.7 you are to turn LEFT onto Shelburne Glebe Road. It's correct in the version posted in this thread a way long time ago.

Earlier today (but not early enough), I started doing a pre-ride of the course. The good news is I installed my new tires and pedals correctly, so they shouldn't hang me up tomorrow.

The first bit of the route is more than half pavement. The non-paved part is bladed road that's hard packed (not too much gravel) and dry with patches of extensive potholes.

I got a late start. There's a large amount of climbing, so I generated a lot of heat early on. But as the sun went down I began to get quite chilled. My ears were cold inside my headband. And my feet with my MORE wool sox and neoprene toe covers just weren't enough. The wind was quite nippy. At least tomorrow it's predicted to be 4 degrees warmer, but the same wind, and also mostly cloudy. <I hate winter>


I am riding the sport touring bike with 30mm tires should be fine.


they are 20miles 30miles and 37miles.

you can decide at the rest stop if you want to do the 20mile version compared to the 30mile. The 37 mile has 7 extra miles before the rest stop. the cue sheets and map will be at the ride start.
the files are located at :


Short
http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=p65q2RxAubS5hx21DZ-iiVg


Med
http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=p65q2RxAubS7aS_wxjl0PAA

Long
http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=p65q2RxAubS7-D0eoZ5bwLg

[tsunayoshi]

I had thoroughly planned on making this ride, but it is 10pm, I have already done 9+ hours of driving today, and I am still in Chesapeake, VA. I would have to leave at 5 or 6am in order to make it which is probably not going to happen.

Enjoy! Someone drink a beer (or 3) on my behalf.

[ridethewomble]

I'm doing this thing. If anyone is on the fence, I'm leaving from Arlington (East Falls Church Metro) around 8:30. I have room for one person and one bike (more). PM me if you'd like to share a ride.

[darren]

was trying to get the cue sheets done and you are right!! The maps I made were right but that could be confusing, so I am changing the cue sheets.

[Squirrel Girl]

Yeah, we all made it back, with no casualties, except a few spokes.

We almost lost a few on Rt 9, but we made it the 3/4 mile with only a near miss.

During the pre-ride on Saturday, I saw a hawk and flock o turkeys (skedaddling before Thanksgiving, I'd guess). Today I saw a couple deer (though not as cool as the buck Scud saw swimming across the Occoquan!), and a groundhog.

Thanks to wren for corraling us casual-ties around. Good times. I got to ride with my brand new Lake 301s. My feet were still cool, but I'd have had ice blocks on my ankles had I not worn 'em.

It turned out to be almost all Sharks, and no Jets, except Andrew who rode with us casual riders. He was thankful after some long downhill with bad brakes that we waited for him at a turn on the route. I had to explain to him that MORE casual riders never drop anyone from the group. Later at the chow/beer stop, he asked about going on MORE rides.

Thanks, Darren for organizing the ride. The weather was the only thing I didn't like. Oh yeah, and the fact the rest stop had a sign that said "No public restroom." Luckily a few miles down the way I found a field of giant hay bale rolls. There was a little space about the size of a bathroom stall surrounded by bales on 3 sides that was perfect for a pit stop.

Anyway, it was fun, and in a few hours I'll warm up and all will be well in the world! :)

[darren]

So there were more sharks on the ride, there were a few PPTCers there. The more important thing was there were a good number of Cross Bikes on the ride. I think most had a good time on the ride, the winner of best recovery was a gentleman that hit a mailbox, not to go into a ditch, and was able to stay upright and not hurt himself. The ride leader, was able to field a bike at the last minute. The only issue was the broken spoke that happened before the first rest stop. Luckly someone had a multitool with spoke wrenches on it. There ended up being three groups at the finish, and I believe people were able to find people to ride with along the way. I saw some good bike handling, and bunny hopping on some skinny tired bikes. I dressed over kill, but with my lake boots I even had heat packs in them too. Insead of my feet numb and cold, they were hurting from the heat, nextime I will put the heater under the sole and see how that works. Thanks Ken for riding sweep, people really appreciate it. I was glad to meet some new folks and have some familier faces out there as well. I am thinking to lead this ride again in January, and do it in reverse? Might be good to have like three leads for that, like an A group, B group and a Sweep group. I am thinking of doing an impromptu ride in Dec. if I get my cyclocross frame Warrentied or I get a new frame in time. That ride would be the first part going towards some more back roads of Purcerville. OK thanks all for coming

[wren]

Awesome, awesome, ride! It was raw and cold but we kept the engines revved up. That was the first ride in a long time where I came home and the wife said, "Gee honey, you're moving kind of slow." The slow group turned out to be not-so-slow! Drew was off the front everytime. I definitley want to do this one again. I am already starting to obsess on SM100 2007, and this will be a good training ride. The 29er with Nanoraptors was a little sluggish for this ride. Next time, I'll be on a new touring/cross bike. Thanks to everyone who showed up and many thanks to Darren for putting this ride together. Sorry I missed the beers and food, had to run to the airport.

Memorable moments -

1. Riding through the richest county in the US of A, and instead of calling out "Car Back," calling out "Lexus Back" or "McLaren Benz Up."

2. "Man Down" - we had one spill that I saw and it was a good one. Wheel washed out at the bottom of a hill, broken helmet, and road rash on the shoulder. The guy (sorry forgot your name!) bounced up and was back on the bike in 3 seconds. Those cross guys are tough!

3. Believe it or not, Darren has found a few dirt roads in Loudon Co. that sprawl has missed. We hit a few country lanes where no new house has been built since the 1800s and it was like stepping back in time. Very cool.

(Will upload a few photos later.)

[Squirrel Girl]

Ken, "Pokey" has a much friendlier connotation than "slow" IMHO. Yeah, on my pre-ride, I observed that instead of being passed by pickups in the country, I was being passed by Beemers. :rolleyes:

Being in the back, I missed all the fun and didn't see the crash. However, around Shelburne Glebe Rd, or maybe the next one, I was passed by a guy who had a dirty right thigh and dirty right forearm. Looked like he crashed. Did the guy you mentioned fall on his right?

BTW, my county is spelled Loudoun (with two "u"s).

Anyway, it was very fun to meet and ride with you. Thanks for all the suggestions on my possibly getting an IF with S&S couplings like you have. Getting pointers from someone in the know is *very* valuable.

By the by, here's what our weather was. Perhaps had it been about 30 degrees warmer, I might have been just a smidgeon more thrilled with the ride as you were. No it did not get much colder at the end, but the wind increased a tiny bit.

Time
EST (UTC) Temperature
F (C) Dew Point
F (C) Pressure
Inches (hPa) Wind
MPH Weather

3 PM (20) Nov 19 48.0 (8.9) 34.0 (1.1) 29.97 (1014) NW 10
2 PM (19) Nov 19 48.0 (8.9) 33.1 (0.6) 29.97 (1014) NNW 9
1 PM (18) Nov 19 48.9 (9.4) 32.0 (0.0) 29.98 (1015) NNW 7
Noon (17) Nov 19 46.9 (8.3) 32.0 (0.0) 29.99 (1015) NW 7
11 AM (16) Nov 19 46.0 (7.8) 32.0 (0.0) 30.01 (1016) NNW 8
10 AM (15) Nov 19 45.0 (7.2) 35.1 (1.7) 30.02 (1016) WNW 5

[pepelkod]

Looking forward to a Jan reverse ride.

-D

[wren]

Ken, "Pokey" has a much friendlier connotation than "slow" IMHO.

You are right, "slow" is not a good choice but I don't like "pokey" either. How about "medium fast"? ;)

Here are a couple of photos . . .

[Squirrel Girl]

You are right, "slow" is not a good choice but I don't like "pokey" either. How about "medium fast"? ;) From the thesaurus:

apathetic, blah, comatose, dopey, down, dragging, draggy, drippy, dull, heavy, hebetudinous, inactive, indolent, inert, laid back, languid, languorous, leaden, lethargic, lifeless, listless, lumpish, off, phlegmatic, pokey, slack, slothful, slow, sluggard, slumberous, stagnant, stiff, sullen, torpid, unresponsive

crawling, creeping, dawdling, delaying, deliberate, dilatory, disinclined, dreamy, drowsy, easy, gradual, idle, imperceptible, lackadaisical, laggard, lagging, lazy, leisurely, loitering, measured, moderate, negligent, passive, plodding, ponderous, postponing, procrastinating, quiet, reluctant, remiss, slack, sleepy, slothful, slow-moving, sluggish, snaillike, supine, tardy, torpid, tortoiselike

Do any of these strike your fancy? My exBF used to call me "tortoid."

But "medium fast" works for me. :D

[drewdane]

From the thesaurus:

apathetic, blah, comatose, dopey, down, dragging, draggy, drippy, dull, heavy, hebetudinous, inactive, indolent, inert, laid back, languid, languorous, leaden, lethargic, lifeless, listless, lumpish, off, phlegmatic, pokey, slack, slothful, slow, sluggard, slumberous, stagnant, stiff, sullen, torpid, unresponsive

crawling, creeping, dawdling, delaying, deliberate, dilatory, disinclined, dreamy, drowsy, easy, gradual, idle, imperceptible, lackadaisical, laggard, lagging, lazy, leisurely, loitering, measured, moderate, negligent, passive, plodding, ponderous, postponing, procrastinating, quiet, reluctant, remiss, slack, sleepy, slothful, slow-moving, sluggish, snaillike, supine, tardy, torpid, tortoiselike

Do any of these strike your fancy? My exBF used to call me "tortoid."

But "medium fast" works for me. :D
How 'bout "velocity challenged"? :D

[jabberwocky]

I like negligent and imperceptible.

[wren]

I like negligent and imperceptible.


"Ken set such a negligent pace that the group's progress was imperceptible."

Hey, those thesaurus thingies really work! That could really help my song writing.

:)

[joep]

Can someone re-post this cue sheet? The routeslip link is dead.

[ridethewomble]

Darren posted the queue sheets in Google docs as public. Here they are (https://docs.google.com/#search/leesburg+dirt+roads).

You have to be signed in to The Great Google to get 'em, and I don't know if that easy search only works through the prism of my account. If that link doesn't work, try these:


Short (https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0Ar-1c2BLUempcDY1cTJSeEF1YlM1aHgyMURaLW lpVmc&hl=en)
Medium (https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0Ar-1c2BLUempcDY1cTJSeEF1YlM3YVNfd3hqbD BQQUE&hl=en)
Long (https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0Ar-1c2BLUempcDY1cTJSeEF1YlM3LUQwZW9aNW J3TGc&hl=en)


If you still have issues, PM me, and I'll get them to you.

[joep]

Darren posted the queue sheets in Google docs as public. Here they are (https://docs.google.com/#search/leesburg+dirt+roads).

You have to be signed in to The Great Google to get 'em, and I don't know if that easy search only works through the prism of my account. If that link doesn't work, try these:


Short (https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0Ar-1c2BLUempcDY1cTJSeEF1YlM1aHgyMURaLW lpVmc&hl=en)
Medium (https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0Ar-1c2BLUempcDY1cTJSeEF1YlM3YVNfd3hqbD BQQUE&hl=en)
Long (https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0Ar-1c2BLUempcDY1cTJSeEF1YlM3LUQwZW9aNW J3TGc&hl=en)


If you still have issues, PM me, and I'll get them to you.

Thanks! .....

[darren]

not all with Cue sheets but you can figure it out. The DirtyBurg is my fav close Dirt road ride.

http://www.bikely.com/maps/bike-path/Dirt-Road-Ride-Leesburg

http://www.bikely.com/maps/bike-path/BustHead-DirtyBurg-Ride

http://www.bikely.com/maps/bike-path/DirtyBurg-Backwards

I use Bikely cause less advertisements, and you can print out cue sheets for free.