View Full Version : Independent Adjustment Seatposts?
silly_yak
November 30th, 2009, 02:22 PM
Looking for recommendations on seatposts that have tilt separated from fore-aft.
Cjones
November 30th, 2009, 02:28 PM
Moots make one. Looks sweet, but $$$$$:
http://www.moots.com/#/product/moots_components/seat_posts/cinch_seatposts/
Dirt
November 30th, 2009, 02:35 PM
I have a codependent adjustment seatpost. It is mutually abusive.
I know. I'm shutting up now.
TiRyder
November 30th, 2009, 03:00 PM
Yup, the Moots is Money in that it works great and cost a bundle. I love mine.
I am not sure I have ever seen another that has both settings independent
silly_yak
November 30th, 2009, 03:31 PM
Moots make one. Looks sweet, but $$$$$:
http://www.moots.com/#/product/moots_components/seat_posts/cinch_seatposts/
Too bad it's not my size. Thinking about this one...
http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Models.aspx?ModelID=15431
tsunayoshi
November 30th, 2009, 04:04 PM
Aren't thomsons sort of independent in their adjustments? Once you have the fore-aft setup, changing the angle is merely a matter of loosening one bolt a bit and tightening the opposite. If you do it in small increments, the seat never slides anywhere. That is my experience at least.
BottomBraket
November 30th, 2009, 04:17 PM
Aren't thomsons sort of independent in their adjustments? Once you have the fore-aft setup, changing the angle is merely a matter of loosening one bolt a bit and tightening the opposite. If you do it in small increments, the seat never slides anywhere. That is my experience at least.
I'm with tsunayoshi, why do you need anything more?
rizetech
November 30th, 2009, 06:08 PM
I was going to inquire the same thing, my joplin post has a similar looking head...
I imagine the moots one allows each side of the post head to be at a different position than the other?
At that point, I imagine your seat rails would be bent and it might just be uncomfortable...
However, it does say MOOTS on it!
I was also going to note that most posts allow you to adjust fore / aft and angle separately.... just slide the rails... I think there's something we're not in on :confused2:
tuba_transport
November 30th, 2009, 06:25 PM
I imagine the moots one allows each side of the post head to be at a different position than the other?
At that point, I imagine your seat rails would be bent and it might just be uncomfortable...
However, it does say MOOTS on it!
I have a MOOTS cinch post and my seat rails are not bent. Does this mean mine is defective?
dan_hudson
November 30th, 2009, 06:37 PM
Throughout MTB history, there have been a host of companies offering posts which separate tilt & fore/aft adjustments - some slick, some Rube Goldberg...
RaceFace has made a point of making posts of this type, starting a few generations back with their XY line. The current iteration is available at all their pricepoints, from "Next" to "Deus" to "Evolve". Though no longer made in BC, I've always had success with RaceFace components...
http://www.raceface.com/components/seatposts/26/
While a bit unsightly (ATMO), Salsa's current offering is "independent" as well. You don't have to spend Moots-money!
riderx
November 30th, 2009, 07:20 PM
Aren't thomsons sort of independent in their adjustments? Once you have the fore-aft setup, changing the angle is merely a matter of loosening one bolt a bit and tightening the opposite. If you do it in small increments, the seat never slides anywhere. That is my experience at least.
Right on the money. Plus the Thomson has angle markings which make easy work of dialing the tilt.
The RaceFace options Dan posted look good too.
TiRyder
November 30th, 2009, 11:42 PM
I was going to inquire the same thing, my joplin post has a similar looking head...
I imagine the moots one allows each side of the post head to be at a different position than the other?
At that point, I imagine your seat rails would be bent and it might just be uncomfortable...
However, it does say MOOTS on it!
I was also going to note that most posts allow you to adjust fore / aft and angle separately.... just slide the rails... I think there's something we're not in on :confused2:
Wrong. The two sides of the post head swivel together, so always aligned perfectly.
The nice thing about the Moots is that the two adjustments are completely independent. You can have your fore/aft position locked solid and still adjust the angle without there even being a chance of it moving. The opposite is true as well. You can lock the angle and adjust fore/aft.
Thomson's are sweet too, and just about as easy to adjust, but they are not completely independent adjustments, which is what I think the OP was looking for.
RRRJ
December 1st, 2009, 09:26 AM
Salsa sells one too - I have one that came with my Mariachi, its not bad although I still prefer a 2-bolt design - my other bikes have easton zero or thomson posts.
http://www.speedgoat.com/product.asp?part=44187&cat=42&brand=216
tuba_transport
December 1st, 2009, 10:32 AM
Might I ask what problem you are trying to solve which separate fore/aft and angle will solve?
My Moots seatpost has this ability. I find it novel but not necessary. Once the seatpost is in the proper position it never really gets moved.
Same is true of every seatpost I have ever used. I might move the height up and down on occasion but angle and fore/aft is the same once I set it up.
My Thomson seatposts don't have the separate adjustment bolts for angle and forward position but Thomson puts angle marks on one side so that when you change saddles or change fore/aft you can easily put the seat back to the exact same angle as before. I also feel the Thomson does a better job of preventing the saddle from slipping. Thomson also has a larger contact area for saddle rails. Not sure if that matters or not.
I like both posts. I trust the Thomson wholeheartedly and I am liking the flex of the Moots on my new bike.
silly_yak
December 1st, 2009, 11:06 AM
Might I ask what problem you are trying to solve which separate fore/aft and angle will solve?
My Moots seatpost has this ability. I find it novel but not necessary. Once the seatpost is in the proper position it never really gets moved.
Same is true of every seatpost I have ever used. I might move the height up and down on occasion but angle and fore/aft is the same once I set it up.
My Thomson seatposts don't have the separate adjustment bolts for angle and forward position but Thomson puts angle marks on one side so that when you change saddles or change fore/aft you can easily put the seat back to the exact same angle as before. I also feel the Thomson does a better job of preventing the saddle from slipping. Thomson also has a larger contact area for saddle rails. Not sure if that matters or not.
I like both posts. I trust the Thomson wholeheartedly and I am liking the flex of the Moots on my new bike.
I will sometimes play with the fore/aft depending on how high I have my seat. And everytime I go to adjust it, the tilt gets me all tilted.
rizetech
December 1st, 2009, 10:15 PM
Wrong. The two sides of the post head swivel together, so always aligned perfectly.
The nice thing about the Moots is that the two adjustments are completely independent. You can have your fore/aft position locked solid and still adjust the angle without there even being a chance of it moving. The opposite is true as well. You can lock the angle and adjust fore/aft.
Thomson's are sweet too, and just about as easy to adjust, but they are not completely independent adjustments, which is what I think the OP was looking for.
Ah, so the answer is, it isn't anything special... you can equally take a $20 post, and a marker, and just make some marks so that you know your original setup, etc.
In light of the un-necessaryness of spending $$ on TITANIUM!!!!!!
Buy a Thomson post if you are worried about breaking seatposts, or just like gorgeous pieces of aluminum. It is super fine adjustable, has marks for angle (and height, if you're a seatpost dropper), and probably costs less.
Also, see the $20 + marker solution - I have used something like the moots before on my Joplin, and find it's no better than the thomson. I also find nothing challenging about getting a great setup with an ordinary post.
I think making a good note of where something was before adjusting is always a good idea!
Oh, and as a final thought, the Thudbuster seats have a very nice angle adjustment as well, and far superior ride-smoothing qualities as compared with anything except a waterbed.
/end hateration
(I do now understand what makes the MOOTS post special, thanks for the interesting information, I just feel obligated (since this is the internet) to express my amusement at this "solution")
TiRyder
December 1st, 2009, 11:52 PM
Ah, so the answer is, it isn't anything special... you can equally take a $20 post, and a marker, and just make some marks so that you know your original setup, etc.
In light of the un-necessaryness of spending $$ on TITANIUM!!!!!!
Buy a Thomson post if you are worried about breaking seatposts, or just like gorgeous pieces of aluminum. It is super fine adjustable, has marks for angle (and height, if you're a seatpost dropper), and probably costs less.
Also, see the $20 + marker solution - I have used something like the moots before on my Joplin, and find it's no better than the thomson. I also find nothing challenging about getting a great setup with an ordinary post.
I think making a good note of where something was before adjusting is always a good idea!
Oh, and as a final thought, the Thudbuster seats have a very nice angle adjustment as well, and far superior ride-smoothing qualities as compared with anything except a waterbed.
/end hateration
(I do now understand what makes the MOOTS post special, thanks for the interesting information, I just feel obligated (since this is the internet) to express my amusement at this "solution")
Your an idiot, If you read what the OP was asking for, the Moots fits the bill. He wasnt asking what works best with a marker to set his post up. Or what other people do.
Sure other Posts are just as adjustable, and I use Thomson posts on some bikes as well, but I and other answered the question with a product that does EXACTLY what the original question was.
If you
rizetech
December 2nd, 2009, 09:40 PM
Your an idiot, If you read what the OP was asking for, the Moots fits the bill. He wasnt asking what works best with a marker to set his post up. Or what other people do.
Sure other Posts are just as adjustable, and I use Thomson posts on some bikes as well, but I and other answered the question with a product that does EXACTLY what the original question was.
If you
Haha I got it man, I was just being "that guy" on the internet... No need to take it personally. I think the concept is cool, I just haven't ever experienced the need.
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