Robbie Madison World record step up-step down [Archive]

jabberwocky

January 4th, 2009, 11:23 PM

Puuulease! Those motorcycles have so much suspension I bet he didn't even feel that landing. Now, if he hits that on a freeride bike with a 888 fork then I'll be impressed.::rolleyes:I'm not sure I could ride a motorcycle off what is essentially a 10 story building no matter how much travel it had. ;)

I do agree that I would be highly impressed if someone pulled it on a mtb.

brian_brox

January 5th, 2009, 10:10 AM

I'm not sure I could ride a motorcycle off what is essentially a 10 story building no matter how much travel it had. ;)

I do agree that I would be highly impressed if someone pulled it on a mtb.I won't be impressed until I see it done on roller skates.

It seemed like the flat part of the step down went to pavement too quickly. He was in the air for another 20 feet. How fast do you think he is going once he hits the flat section?

BikerMiker

January 5th, 2009, 12:30 PM

Sketchy on the drop. He missed a lot of the transition.

Pretty sick. Nice work.

mk

HuckFinn

January 5th, 2009, 12:45 PM

I'm not sure I could ride a motorcycle off what is essentially a 10 story building no matter how much travel it had. ;)

Come now, I'm sure you could manage to ride a motorcycle off the roof of that thing physically. He only drove off the edge at a few miles an hour and gravity did the rest. The trick is mentally convincing yourself to do it in the first place and actually landing without an explosion of body parts.

Here's a topic to stir up some discussion... I often wonder how much skill vs. balls it takes to make big drops like that. In the world of big mountain skiing there's this guy who basically built his reputation on huge, ridiculous drops. A few years ago he launched himself off a cliff that was over 200 feet for a world record. Did that take skill to ski off a cliff? What if I told you he landed on his head. Really. On his head. Somehow he was fine, mostly because the steepness of the landing and the depth of the powder he landed in. In the bike world, there's Bender. Basically the same deal.

Are these guys incredibly skilled or are they kooks with a death wish who are just willing to take huge risks? Or both? In either case, it makes interesting YouTube videos. :p

Discuss.

jabberwocky

January 5th, 2009, 12:57 PM

Are these guys incredibly skilled or are they kooks with a death wish who are just willing to take huge risks? Or both? In either case, it makes interesting YouTube videos. :pI'd say both. It takes a lot of confidence in your own skills to be able to sack up and do something like that. It also takes a stunning lack of judgement. :)

I personally respect anyone who is willing to take enormous risks, be it on a mtb, skateboard, motorcycle, whatever.

Dr Phil mmkay

January 5th, 2009, 01:52 PM

I'd say both. It takes a lot of confidence in your own skills to be able to sack up and do something like that. It also takes a stunning lack of judgement. :)

I personally respect anyone who is willing to take enormous risks, be it on a mtb, skateboard, motorcycle, whatever.

Seriously, there needs to be a ridiculous lack of self-preservation to pull off these types of stunts. I respect them and at the same time, think they're absolutely outside their minds.

eloach

January 5th, 2009, 03:08 PM

Anyone ever hear of a masochist? Some people like pain.

I think it takes a good bit of skill to land out of the air correctly on a bike. It also takes a good bit of skill to LAUNCH correctly on a bike so that you have a CHANCE of landing correctly. I can't really do either, so I certainly admire those that can. Generally, if you watch MTB videos, it doesn't appear to me that guys enjoy missing drops or stunts (ROAM and other Collective stuff). So yeah, I think it takes a lot of guts to try something you are not pretty sure of yourself on.

I think those guys in ROAM also just get into a flow where they are hitting everything and are not even thinking about it at all (years of skills there). I have had much better luck completing sketchy moves when I had ZERO time to think about it. If I actually THINK, I am doomed. Like >> "I think, therefore I am doomed".

BottomBraket

January 5th, 2009, 05:14 PM

I won't be impressed until I see it done on roller skates.

It seemed like the flat part of the step down went to pavement too quickly. He was in the air for another 20 feet. How fast do you think he is going once he hits the flat section?

v = squareroot(2*g*y+v0*v0)

g = 32 feet/sec/sec

y = 96 feet

v0 = 0 mph

v = 53.6 mph

Since termimal velocity near Earth surface is about 100 mph, 53.6 mph should a good estimate.

Any questions?

brian_brox

January 5th, 2009, 05:33 PM

v = squareroot(2*g*y+v0*v0)

g = 32 feet/sec/sec

y = 96 feet

v0 = 0 mph

v = 53.6 mph

Since termimal velocity near Earth surface is about 100 mph, 53.6 mph should a good estimate.

Any questions?

...then the ramp builders should have expected that he would need a little more room to slow down. The flat section of the blue ram looks about 20 feet long!

Hitting the top of the ramp would have taken more skills than balls...1-2 feet too long or short would be a nightmare.

tuba_transport

January 5th, 2009, 05:59 PM

Are these guys incredibly skilled or are they kooks with a death wish who are just willing to take huge risks?

He didn't wake up and start jumping 400ft gaps. This was part of a long long progression. The Redbull stuff is what happens when dollars are flashed at someone who is already an adrenaline junky and way confident in their abilities.

skijim668

January 5th, 2009, 07:15 PM

Alot of landing ramp wasted.All he needed was a decent size skate ramp at the bottom:rolleyes:.

Lack of fear and self preservation first come to mind.There is a lot of skill also. To jump a jump is one thing but to fly a bike THAT far,able to correct it with acceleration and brake checks is a whole different thing.

In this vid he jumps back wheel high.He taps the brakes and sends him straight.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NL8Vj-Xe7DM

As a total dead sailor, I just wish I could apply some of my piddly, book only ,wannabe knowledge.:)

laxdad

January 6th, 2009, 10:39 AM

you are way off with that. to get the front wheel up you hit the throttle, to bring the front down you tap the rear brake. if you look closely he works them both. on your mtb grab a little back brake while in the air and see what happenss with your nose.

skijim668

January 6th, 2009, 05:14 PM

you are way off with that. to get the front wheel up you hit the throttle, to bring the front down you tap the rear brake.

Yeah I had it backwards.Good thing Im not jumping that jump.It would ve turned into a front flip or two or five.No need to get me a stretcher, just grab a broom and a dust pan:D

snappster

January 6th, 2009, 08:03 PM

I can't really do either, so I certainly admire those that can.

If the rubber side leaves the ground I am most likely crashing.

crack monkey

January 7th, 2009, 09:49 AM

laxdad

January 7th, 2009, 12:34 PM

Puuulease! Those motorcycles have so much suspension I bet he didn't even feel that landing. Now, if he hits that on a freeride bike with a 888 fork then I'll be impressed.::rolleyes:

just look at some videoes and you will see when those doudes land flat or case a jump that suspension dont do crap. plus a bike is not made to drop in 90 some feet even with a tranny. get you facts straight. also look up josh bender on youtube and see what happend to him when he hit jaw drop. ricky.

walsh

January 7th, 2009, 12:44 PM

get you facts straight.

I'm pretty sure that Phat Phossum is just talking a little good-natured smack.

Plus, if that drop-in was slightly moist, he wouldn't hesitate for a moment to run it in his kayak.

phat possum

January 7th, 2009, 01:15 PM

Plus, if that drop-in was slightly moist, he wouldn't hesitate for a moment to run it in his kayak.

90 feet is pretty tall for running in a kayak but certainly doable. The highest waterfall I have paddled off is 70 feet. However, us kayakers like to have a deep pool at the bottom not a transition ramp! :D

laxdad

January 7th, 2009, 04:07 PM

90 feet is pretty tall for running in a kayak but certainly doable. The highest waterfall I have paddled off is 70 feet. However, us kayakers like to have a deep pool at the bottom not a transition ramp! :D

i want to see some pics. i call bs on that. 70 feet you say. 7 0 . am i reading correctly.

walsh

January 7th, 2009, 04:09 PM

i want to see some pics. i call bs on that. 70 feet you say. 7 0 . am i reading correctly.

I'll be happy to oblige you. http://www.americanwhitewater.org/content/Photo_detail_photoid_10501_size_big _
There's a 60-footer on that creek, which is within the noise level. :)

laxdad

January 7th, 2009, 04:26 PM

that is a good pic. you got me. but my retort is that aint 70 ft vertical. even i would ride down that. looks sorta scarey. it is like sex get on board and hold on and enjoy the ride. not e-thuggin just haveing a little fun with you.

jabberwocky

January 7th, 2009, 04:36 PM

I'll be happy to oblige you. http://www.americanwhitewater.org/content/Photo_detail_photoid_10501_size_big _
There's a 60-footer on that creek, which is within the noise level. :)Damn, thats effing crazy. Looks like fun though.

that is a good pic. you got me. but my retort is that aint 70 ft vertical. even i would ride down that. looks sorta scarey. it is like sex get on board and hold on and enjoy the ride. not e-thuggin just haveing a little fun with you.I dunno dude, I imagine that it takes some skill to keep yourself upright and pointed in the right direction. If you get flipped upside down or the wrong direction you'd be in deep trouble (like, "divers scoured the river for hours before finding the body" kind of trouble). That volume of water has an enormous amount of force behind it.

walsh

January 7th, 2009, 04:40 PM

Damn, thats effing crazy. Looks like fun though.

So the record is straight: that's Bobby aka PhatPossum aka ZoneDogg. Not me. I've paddled with one or two people he's paddled with, and used to follow what he was up to, but I don't do that stuff. (I lack the skills, nerve, huevos, whatever it is to take on gradient like that on a bike or in a boat.)

I kind of regret bringing the whole thing up now. I just thought that the smack talk was a little more humorous, in the context that it was coming from someone who's nationally recognized for paddling kayaks off of cliffs that are better suited for rock climbing when the water goes down.

jabberwocky

January 7th, 2009, 04:42 PM

So the record is straight: that's Bobby aka PhatPossum aka ZoneDogg. Not me. I've paddled with people he's paddled with, and used to follow what he was up to, but I don't do that stuff. I lack the skills, nerve, huevos, whatever it is to take on gradient like that on a bike or in a boat.I saw the caption so I knew it was Bobby. Plus, I've met you and know you're a scrawny little wuss. ;)

walsh

January 7th, 2009, 04:48 PM

scrawny little wuss.

Cyclists with my physique are referred to as "pure climbers," thankyouverymuch.

jabberwocky

January 7th, 2009, 04:50 PM

Cyclists with my physique are referred to as "pure climbers," thankyouverymuch.As long as I can be "stocky" rather than "tubby", I'm fine with that. :D

phat possum

January 7th, 2009, 08:31 PM

You know, I did an internet search to see if I had any pictures online of the 70 footer that I ran. I couldn't find any so the websites that used to host them must be down. I did find some other pics for those who are interested.

http://www.americanwhitewater.org/content/Photo_detail_photoid_446_

Here is my Team Fluid bio.

http://www.fluidkayaks.co.za/Team_NorthAM_Bobby.htm

Here is a video that I made a few years ago. I don't know if the link still plays, my computer lacks the memory to play it.

http://www.justfluid.com/bobbysolopromo.mov

Here are a couple of humorous stories I wrote with accompanying pictures.

http://www.justfluid.com/right06watergap.html

http://www.justfluid.com/right06cobobbyobej.html

http://www.justfluid.com/rightco06sstvrain.html

I know kayaking is off topic but I think some of you may find this stuff interesting.:)

Bobby

urbaindk

January 8th, 2009, 12:14 PM

aka PhatPossum aka ZoneDogg. .

Oh I had no idea. Damn. I used to read your exploits on Boatertalk all the time. You used to run (maybe still do) lots of crazy a** s*** in WV right? Insane.

I used to paddle OC1 and C1. 1/2 paddle, 2x the man, or is that 1/2 padde, 1/2 brain? I forget. The biggest I've dropped is 20' and that hurt like a SOB. Kind of over rotated and landed face first. Imagine doing a belly flop off a high dive strapped to a 40 lb canoe. I can't imagine going much higher than that.