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notrelatedtoted
November 30th, 2008, 06:10 PM
The other thread about winter gear is too long and I don't read good.
I've been wearing some rag wool gloves over regular cycling gloves, and amazingly, it has been great. However, my original pair wore out last winter, and the new gloves I have just aren't the same. I figure it's time to step up and buy some real winter gloves.
Anyone out there using the PI Cyclones? The AmFib gloves look like they'd be too bulky in anything but the coldest weather. I tend not to ride when it gets down below freezing, so I don't need something designed for extreme temperatures.
Any other recommendations?
tuba_transport
November 30th, 2008, 06:32 PM
Shopping for gloves on the internet is a lot like picking out a pair of shoes or helmet on the internet. Fit is so all over the map that I have to go to a store for these items.
REI has a pretty good selection. Attributes I look for in gloves are similar to that of other cycling clothing.
Layers.
My most versatile winter gloves are a very thin, lightweight Windstopper glove. I bought it a hair big so I could use a heavy, light, or both glove liners inside. This gives me a glove solution which covers a wide range of temperatures.
I bought a heavier glove liner and a thin one. The thin one works ok in a regular summer full finger also.
I picked up the glove liners off the shelf and then tried on the cycling gloves WITH and without the liners to judge fit and comfort. It took me a good amount of time at REI to come up with what feels comfortable.
As you have noticed a heavier dedicated glove has more limited temperature ranges where they are comfortable. You are basically buying the same thing I use except you can't pull out the insulation and throw it in the Camelback if the temps go up.
Dirt
November 30th, 2008, 06:48 PM
Like any other cold weather clothing, layers are important. If you buy one super warm pair of gloves, you're going to sweat than freeze.
many companies make glove sets. you can also make your own. You've got a liner glove that moves moisture away from your skin. you then have a middle glove that provides warmth. Then there's an outer glove that keeps the wind out. When your hands get too warm, take off one layer. It will keep you from freezing after sweating.
You can spend $180 for a setup like this from Assos or some other fancy pants company, or you can spend $40-60 at REI putting your own system together.
Inner layer = thin, liner glove. $10-15
Middle layer = fleece or wool glove. I have some that are fingerless. $10-15
Outer layer = some kind of wind-cutting glove. $15-30.
Buying the three first hand is important so that you can make sure that they all fit together.
You may already own some or all of these. That will cut the price significantly.
Using combinations of gloves I already own, I'm able to put combinations together that let me comfortably ride when it is 10 degrees out at the beginning of the ride and stay warm and confy up to 40 or 50 degrees.
DownHillDan
November 30th, 2008, 07:19 PM
I just bought these. http://www.louisgarneau.com/catalogs/catalog_product.asp?catalogue=WU8§ion=GL&sub_section=015&style_no=1482075&type_catalogue=&language=ENG&website=2
Im not sure what the lowest temp they could be used in yet but they would certainly be warm enough for above freezing but maybe to warm in the 50's. The amfibs pi's have breathing problems on the palms. I have heard everyone that has used them has had sweaty palms.
kdweb
November 30th, 2008, 09:10 PM
Sounds like the old set up, Raggs over your regular gloves was the fix. I have found that ANY heavy glove set up lead to sweaty hands that just get cold. Take a trip to Lowe’s or the Home Depot and check out a pair of those rubber palmed work gloves. I am always cool and dry …..but I do start feeling the sting of the cold around 40 degrees. The rubber covers the palm and fingers and keeps the wind off them plus you get the grippy advantage! Since I tried this set up, I’m not stuck with cold and clammy hands a few miles into the ride.
notrelatedtoted
November 30th, 2008, 09:24 PM
Sounds like the old set up, Raggs over your regular gloves was the fix. I have found that ANY heavy glove set up lead to sweaty hands that just get cold. Take a trip to Lowe’s or the Home Depot and check out a pair of those rubber palmed work gloves. I am always cool and dry …..but I do start feeling the sting of the cold around 40 degrees. The rubber covers the palm and fingers and keeps the wind off them plus you get the grippy advantage! Since I tried this set up, I’m not stuck with cold and clammy hands a few miles into the ride.
The problem with my current wool gloves + cycling gloves is that the wool gloves tend to bunch up in the palms. Also, it increases my grip enough that my forearms get tired, if that makes sense.
What I'm looking for is a single glove that will work most of the time - I've yet to find a glove layering system that I'm truly happy with (other than the old pair of rag wool gloves I wore out).
notrelatedtoted
November 30th, 2008, 09:26 PM
Shopping for gloves on the internet is a lot like picking out a pair of shoes or helmet on the internet. Fit is so all over the map that I have to go to a store for these items.
REI has a pretty good selection. Attributes I look for in gloves are similar to that of other cycling clothing.
Layers.
My most versatile winter gloves are a very thin, lightweight Windstopper glove. I bought it a hair big so I could use a heavy, light, or both glove liners inside. This gives me a glove solution which covers a wide range of temperatures.
I bought a heavier glove liner and a thin one. The thin one works ok in a regular summer full finger also.
I picked up the glove liners off the shelf and then tried on the cycling gloves WITH and without the liners to judge fit and comfort. It took me a good amount of time at REI to come up with what feels comfortable.
As you have noticed a heavier dedicated glove has more limited temperature ranges where they are comfortable. You are basically buying the same thing I use except you can't pull out the insulation and throw it in the Camelback if the temps go up.
I tried on the cyclones and liked the fit. The tag on them suggested that they would be warm down to 10 degrees, which seemed like a bit of a stretch. But thanks for the tip - I'll check out what REI has to offer.
tuba_transport
November 30th, 2008, 09:30 PM
What I'm looking for is a single glove that will work most of the time - I've yet to find a glove layering system that I'm truly happy with (other than the old pair of rag wool gloves I wore out).
I have a pair of Cannondale gloves (http://www.rei.com/product/772338) which I feel are the most versatile in my collection. They are still a compromise and feel cold at around freezing, but you said that is not an issue for you. They are also a bit warm for 50 degrees.
http://media.rei.com/media/hh/4bfb9c09-2ad7-45ac-bec9-a6d478ea45d3.jpg
zap602
December 1st, 2008, 09:59 AM
I am an avid skier, so I use my skiing gloves as MTB gloves on days temps deep below 35. I rode with them a couple of weekends ago when the temp was 24 and my hands were fine. The gloves are Goretex lined to keep the wind out, but allow my hands to breath somewhat. For temps above 35 to about 50 I use a neoprene glove available through Performance.
The main thing you want is to keep the wind from chilling your hands. Riding will circulate enough blood to keep your fingers warm.
sourceofdenial
December 1st, 2008, 10:08 AM
I love diving gloves, less bulk and good dexterity--plus they come in lots of different thicknesses, keep your hands dry, and are cheap.
tonyfromdc
December 2nd, 2008, 02:51 PM
The problem with my current wool gloves + cycling gloves is that the wool gloves tend to bunch up in the palms. Also, it increases my grip enough that my forearms get tired, if that makes sense.
What I'm looking for is a single glove that will work most of the time - I've yet to find a glove layering system that I'm truly happy with (other than the old pair of rag wool gloves I wore out).
I got Planet Bike Aquilo gloves recently and they seem to work as advertised. They keep the wind off, and they have a thin palm. So I don’t find them overly bulky on the handlebar. I also like that the index finger is free for one finger braking.
I’ve use them for commuting and for the trails, but I haven’t had the opportunity to ride sub 30 degree temps yet.
http://ecom1.planetbike.com/9005.html
tomn
December 2nd, 2008, 03:16 PM
I got some REI Novara winter gloves like these (http://www.rei.com/product/757074) on sale:
http://media.rei.com/media/s/1194877.jpg
and they are great for temps down to freezing. Below freezing I bring out the big guns (http://www.backcountry.com/store/PLZ0285/Pearl-Izumi-Amfib-Glove-Mens.html?CMP_ID=SH_FRO001&CMP_SKU=PLZ0285&mv_pc=r126) though:
http://content.backcountry.com/images/items/medium/PLZ/PLZ0285/BK.jpg
A little bulky but very cozy. I never had much luck with liners inside gloves. I have big hands and I can never find gloves big enough. For me, once the circulation is cut off it doesn't matter how warm the gloves are. That's why I try to make sure I have good circulation in the hands (and feet) above all else.
rizetech
December 2nd, 2008, 05:56 PM
Got those same REI gloves, pretty happy with them - if you keep your hands moving (a la freeride), they'll be toasty inside - if you keep 'em sorta still a la XC and have bad circulation like me, they'll get a little cold, but definitely tolerable. Haven't had any time with them below freezing - but you'd probably want something heavier.
nocro
December 2nd, 2008, 06:41 PM
I got some REI Novara winter gloves like these (http://www.rei.com/product/757074) on sale:
A little bulky but very cozy. I never had much luck with liners inside gloves. I have big hands and I can never find gloves big enough. For me, once the circulation is cut off it doesn't matter how warm the gloves are. That's why I try to make sure I have good circulation in the hands (and feet) above all else.
I just went over the top, and got some craft siberian gloves. I'll let you know how they pan out. I do plan on riding below twenty, probably down to single digits.
http://www.speedgoat.com/images/products/125713.jpg
I have been nursing along my vintage pearl izumi liner/shell gauntlet gloves for about 2 years. One glove shell is almost completely separated around the thumb. :o I am so sad that they are dying.
sturner
December 2nd, 2008, 07:50 PM
I bought the lighter pair of craft gloves and they have worked out great for me. several rides ranging from the high 20s to the mid 40s...really nice gloves. Picked up a pair at Oasis.
Bandit
December 5th, 2008, 03:12 PM
I just got a pair of these http://www.velowear.com/products/1240043BLKSML.aspx
They are perfect between 35 and 45 degrees. If it warmer than that I wear my normal mountain bike gloves that have fingers.
It is is below freezing, I add a pair of these. http://www.rei.com/product/661604
They are superthin and give me an extra 10-15 degrees of comfort.
starcitymtb
December 5th, 2008, 03:33 PM
I thought I would throw this in since I haven't seen anyone else talk about them. I wear a $35.00 pair of Cloudveil - Walk Don't Run gloves. They are great. They block wind, have a strip of thin leather in the palm for grip and are very breathable. They are the best all around glove I have used. I can wear them when I am not riding my bike as well because they aren't sport specific. I have used liners as well when needed.
drewdane
December 5th, 2008, 03:45 PM
I picked up a pair of these (http://sugoi.com/item/86977/SUG91558U.610) a month or so ago. Below ~freezing, I wear glove liners under them. So far, so good.
Dirt
December 5th, 2008, 04:40 PM
I picked up a pair of these (http://sugoi.com/item/86977/SUG91558U.610) a month or so ago. Below ~freezing, I wear glove liners under them. So far, so good.
I have last year's model. I haven't found temps cold enough for me to wear them yet. We had one morning where the temp was 19 degrees when I left the house. They were too warm for me. I sweated then froze.
That's just me though. I'm a total mutant.
They're very well made and extremely comfortable. I generally like Sugoi stuff.
Pete
drewdane
December 5th, 2008, 04:53 PM
I have last year's model. I haven't found temps cold enough for me to wear them yet. We had one morning where the temp was 19 degrees when I left the house. They were too warm for me. I sweated then froze.
That's just me though. I'm a total mutant.
They're very well made and extremely comfortable. I generally like Sugoi stuff.
Pete
Are you sure it's the same model? They seem to have three "levels", including a "real cold"-weather glove...
pbayne
December 5th, 2008, 06:04 PM
My 2 cents on gloves: For the really cold days try anything made to be an ice climbing glove. Look at companies like Cloudveil, Patagonia, Arc Teryx, Black Diamond, Marmot, Mammut, etc. or check out mgear.com or shoreline. These can be pricey, but I find they are great. Warm enough, block wind, and are made to be grippy. (you don't want to drop your ice axex!)
Winter sailing gloves work well too. Same design, minimalist, warm, windproof, good dexterity (tying knots in the cold)
I went through my glove bag and found over 12 pairs! My favorites: for super cold-patagonia stretch element, 15 degrees and below
Mild weather-black diamond dry tool gloves, or pearl izumi zephyr's. good for about 20 to 40 degrees.
45 or more, i just wear any old long finger glove.
Pinoy Rider
December 6th, 2008, 08:13 AM
I wear a $35.00 pair of Cloudveil - Walk Don't Run gloves.
I have the Walk Don't Run pullover. Sweet piece of kit.
starcitymtb
December 26th, 2008, 08:38 PM
I have the Walk Don't Run pullover. Sweet piece of kit.
Nice stuff... and is durable. You'll have that pull over for years to come.
Pinoy Rider
December 26th, 2008, 10:28 PM
Nice stuff... and is durable. You'll have that pull over for years to come.
Yeah, I think mine is about 8 years old. Most of my stuff from Cloudveil, Mountain Hardwear, and Patagonia are pushing 8+ years. The gear is simply bombproof I even have some of the good kit from The North Face , when the company was selling exclusively to Outdoor Retailers rather than mall type shops, it's still going strong.
plojaa
January 8th, 2009, 10:21 PM
I tend not to ride when it gets down below freezing, so I don't need something designed for extreme temperatures.
Any other recommendations?
Got a pair of GORE gloves....not quite full on ski gloves but enough liner to make it warm.....
The fit is excellent. Can't recall the model though
allroy
January 8th, 2009, 10:45 PM
I picked up a pair of Specialized Deflect gloves last year and they keep your hands pretty warm, wore them all winter and didn't have a problem. Not water proof but decent water resistance.
http://www.specialized.com/bc/SBCEqProduct.jsp?spid=40548&eid=1366
http://www.specialized.com/media/equip/6727-137_d.jpg
I just ordered some new gloves from Endura, The Strike.
http://www.endurasport.com/Product.aspx?dept_id=106&prod_id=13
http://www.endurasport.com/UC/GetImage.aspx?file_id=329&im=6
mark w
January 10th, 2009, 05:25 PM
I just picked up a pair of Windstopper gloves at EMS and have been very happy with them. Full leather palm and not too bulky. If you get them big enough to accomodate a thin liner, I expect you'd be comfy pretty far down the thermometer. Mine fit more or less true to size as they were out of the biggest ones and have served me well on rides down into the low 30s w/o liners.
http://www.ems.com/catalog/product_detail_square.jsp?PRODUCT%3 C%3Eprd_id=845524442597869&FOLDER%3C%3Efolder_id=2534374302898 827
nocro
January 10th, 2009, 09:27 PM
I rode with them a couple of times, and like them. If I was going Siberia, I think I would wear my patagonia laser gauntlet gloves.
I just went over the top, and got some craft siberian gloves. I'll let you know how they pan out. I do plan on riding below twenty, probably down to single digits.
http://www.speedgoat.com/images/products/125713.jpg
I have been nursing along my vintage pearl izumi liner/shell gauntlet gloves for about 2 years. One glove shell is almost completely separated around the thumb. :o I am so sad that they are dying.
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