In transition (Was Forum Format...)

[bigbadbrad]

What happened to the Forums? Is this a new look? Instead of being horizontal rectangles, across most of the screen space, they've gotten squeezed into long vertical boxes? :confused:

Anybody know what the deal is? Is this one for the Moderator (Martin, I believe?)

Curiously yours,
--Brad

[cloughja]

It looks fine to me right now. Maybe trying clearing your browser's cache, closing it and trying again. Seems like computers come up with the craziest ways to screw up on you sometimes.

[Squirrel Girl]

It's messed up for me, too. I know that the site is going under a re-vamp and will soon be new and improved. Perhaps this is a temporary transition stage.

[martin]

we were going to wait till this weekend, but might as well do it now since a couple of things I was doing were messing the old layout up.

Please let me know if everything's working ok for you...

I'll stick this thread so peopl can let me know if they expereince any oddities. You can also let Joe and I know what you think...

[drewdane]

Not being the most attentive sort, I didn't realize a revamp was in the works. It's very nice, but I was pretty startled when I logged on just now! :rolleyes:

P.S.: I suggest bolder or darker text - it looks sort of "washed out" right now...

P.P.S.: Any chance of moving the "Forum Jump" to the top of the page?

[dmofot]

Looking good Martin. Just thought I'd put a couple of things out there. When replying to this, the tan box goes past the box it's contained in on the right side. So does the "Post Icons" box. I can send you a screen grab if you need. I'm running Firefox 1.0 on WindowsXPsp2.

Now for a small request - would it be possible to add a "new posts" button to the front of the forums. It was extremely useful on the old forums to be able to click that and see only the new threads or threads with new replies. What do you think?

DT

[martin]

Looking good Martin. Just thought I'd put a couple of things out there. When replying to this, the tan box goes past the box it's contained in on the right side. So does the "Post Icons" box. I can send you a screen grab if you need. I'm running Firefox 1.0 on WindowsXPsp2.

Now for a small request - would it be possible to add a "new posts" button to the front of the forums. It was extremely useful on the old forums to be able to click that and see only the new threads or threads with new replies. What do you think?

DT

Thanks DT,

I'll fix the post issue - On the home page, under your user box there is a link to new posts

Martin

[martin]

Now for a small request - would it be possible to add a "new posts" button to the front of the forums. It was extremely useful on the old forums to be able to click that and see only the new threads or threads with new replies. What do you think?


Also - On the top navBar there is a button labeled "My Profile" when you click it you will see a dropDown with one of the options being New POsts - that appears everywhere. Hope that helps.

Martin

[cloughja]

Please let me know if everything's working ok for you...

Looks nice!

[martin]

Thnks everyone :)

If you are having a specific issue, please post what operating sytsem and browser you are using.

Thanks!

[drevil]

Looks good. Thanks to you and Joe for the work. I'll play on it later.

I think it's time to kill my bouncy avatar.

[Squirrel Girl]

Nice job. Looks fantastic. Having just dumped a bunch of hours into my own website and made only a dent in getting my Tucson log properly done, I have great appreciation for how much work you've done.

So here are a couple of things that need "fixing"--but I offer them in the spirit of being dazzled by your fine efforts, not as a criticism.

The Thursday night rides on the calendar are listed 6:30 - 6:30, but when you click on them, they come up as they should at 6:45.

What happened to the Forum calendar where I can spy on how old my riding buddies are and wish them Happy Birthday on their days?

[jfoley]

it's also available right from the front page in the "User Profile" box in the top left (under the nav bar)

Also - On the top navBar there is a button labeled "My Profile" when you click it you will see a dropDown with one of the options being New POsts - that appears everywhere. Hope that helps.

Martin

[cloughja]

I just noticed something funny... the "hot thread with new posts" and "hot thread with no new posts" both seem to have the same icon: the new posts icon. That does makes browsing a little confusing. In case it's just me, I'm using Firefox 1.0 on XP. Also, jsut checked with IE and it shows the same thing.

[jks9199]

Not being the most attentive sort, I didn't realize a revamp was in the works. It's very nice, but I was pretty startled when I logged on just now! :rolleyes:

P.S.: I suggest bolder or darker text - it looks sort of "washed out" right now...



Ditto! The layout's nice...but it's a little hard to read because of the lack of contrast.

Jim

[martin]

Ditto! The layout's nice...but it's a little hard to read because of the lack of contrast.

Jim

Thanks! Is contrast better now? I darkened the text color throughout.

[martin]

I just noticed something funny... the "hot thread with new posts" and "hot thread with no new posts" both seem to have the same icon: the new posts icon. That does makes browsing a little confusing. In case it's just me, I'm using Firefox 1.0 on XP. Also, jsut checked with IE and it shows the same thing.

Can you give me the name of the icon? Just right click it and look at it's properties, it'll help me change the right one...

[martin]

Nice job. Looks fantastic. Having just dumped a bunch of hours into my own website and made only a dent in gettomg my Tucson log properly done, I have great appreciation for how much work you've done.

So here are a couple of things that need "fixing"--but I offer them in the spirit of being dazzled by your fine efforts, not as a criticism.

The Thursday night rides on the calendar are listed 6:30 - 6:30, but when you click on them, they come up as they should at 6:45.

What happened to the Forum calendar where I can spy on how old my riding buddies are and wish them Happy Birthday on their days?

Grassyass :D

I'll check out the event stuff.

When you go to the calendar, there is a dropdown that allows you to select between MORE Event Calendar and Community Calendar - Select Community calendar to view holidays and birthdays...

[Squirrel Girl]

When you go to the calendar, there is a dropdown that allows you to select between MORE Event Calendar and Community Calendar - Select Community calendar to view holidays and birthdays...Eaaaaaaaahhhhh. Thanks!

So, is it because you're special????? ;)
When I go to put up a profile picture I am restricted to one 100 x 100 pixels in size. But you get to have one that's 133 x 200 (or something like that).

[tsteele999]

I like it...MTBRish style. Lots of new forums, or at least I've never seen the top ones before.

[martin]

Eaaaaaaaahhhhh. Thanks!

So, is it because you're special????? ;)
When I go to put up a profile picture I am restricted to one 100 x 100 pixels in size. But you get to have one that's 133 x 200 (or something like that).

Yep :)

Among the new forum features are perks for MORE Members... One of them being the ability to post larger profile pictures and the ability to have their own Member Pages - click on Members on the navBar for a half-ass sample from me...

Once I get this thing working 100% (probably never) I'll spruce up my member area.

Members will also get access to a brand new forum (working on it...) That will give them all kinds ofjuicy stuff :)

IF YOU ARE A MORE MEmber and do not see a "Edit Bike Garage" link on your user profile page please PM me with your user info - and the eMail address you used to register, I'll make sure it gets fixed.

[martin]

In honor of the new site, a quick poll...

BTW, We accept constructive criticism and sugestions...

[jks9199]

Thanks! Is contrast better now? I darkened the text color throughout.


Seems like it...what do others think?

Jim

[cloughja]

Can you give me the name of the icon? Just right click it and look at it's properties, it'll help me change the right one...

The incorrect icon is: http://www.more-mtb.org/forum/hybrid/statusicon/thread_hot.gif

[tuba_transport]

In honor of the new site, a quick poll...

BTW, We accept constructive criticism and sugestions...

Too tall of a homepage. Also too busy. Give some broad categories and link to them instead. Looks like you are trying to fit everything on a single page.

[martin]

Too tall of a homepage. Also too busy. Give some broad categories and link to them instead. Looks like you are trying to fit everything on a single page.

What categories would you break things down into?

[MTBeers]

In honor of the new site, a quick poll...

BTW, We accept constructive criticism and sugestions...

Much cleaner design, I like it. It is a little long (scrolling) maybe only show the first few items of each category, then link to the full section on a subsequent page.

Also differentiate the Section headers with a color out of the MORE palette.

The buttons at the top of the page could stand to be more prominent, right now I don't notice them very much. Try knocking the text out in white.

Maybe for Forum topics, only disply the most recent for each of the community forum sections on the main page and then link in.

The Forum page looks good, as does the gallery. Nice dynamic drop downs in the main nav too.

Like I said at the beginning, good improvement, I think through some more feedback in a few more revisions the site will be great.

Good work Martin! :D

[markie@unformat]

I like the new format and graphics, it is purdy!

But the forums are just not as prominant as before. I wonder if that has lead to their low usage over the last few days. I would request making the forums and the ride schedule more obvious, like they were before.

[DKEG]

I like the new format and graphics, it is purdy!

But the forums are just not as prominant as before. I wonder if that has lead to their low usage over the last few days. I would request making the forums and the ride schedule more obvious, like they were before.

I second that! What's up, is everyone actually working. If you are stop it now!

[jfoley]

martin, how about moving the sponsor links under the chapter links... that would let the recent forum topics move up the page...

I like the new format and graphics, it is purdy!

But the forums are just not as prominant as before. I wonder if that has lead to their low usage over the last few days. I would request making the forums and the ride schedule more obvious, like they were before.

[bcaverly]

Much cleaner design, I like it. It is a little long (scrolling) maybe only show the first few items of each category, then link to the full section on a subsequent page.
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Maybe for Forum topics, only disply the most recent for each of the community forum sections on the main page and then link in.
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Like I said at the beginning, good improvement, I think through some more feedback in a few more revisions the site will be great.

Good work Martin! :D

What he said! Plus - the links section on the left seems to be redundant now - suggest moving the calendar list and more news list to the left column. Move my profile stuff to the bottom of the column. On the right - shorten the Forums list and swap the sponsor links with the poll section.

The logic being to keep the more dynamic and current info on top of the page where I can see it without scrolling. Static or nearly static info like my profile should not get top billing.

I'd also reduce the white/gray space on the page in general. The space between columns could be cut in half easily since there is still a margin inside the columns and the white on gray border around the outside of the page could be reduced drastically. Ther is noting wrong with maximizing the use of real estate - especially if it reduces or eliminates the need to scroll.

Great new look and feel - thanks for all the hard work! :D

[markie@unformat]

I was thinking of having the community forums before the news and information.....

Actually information is relatively redundant due to the tabs at the top.

[martin]

I was thinking of having the community forums before the news and information.....

Actually information is relatively redundant due to the tabs at the top.

OK,

I moved a few things around per a few suggestions here - Mainly put the sponsors on the left column and moved the Community Forums to the top of the forum landing page.

Let me know if you have any more suggestions. Please remember that the goal of MORE's site is to disseminate relevant regional information, which is why we have the two features so prominently on the home page and why the news and information forums wehre at the top of the forum landing page.

I can still tweak a few things around the site and I'm keeping a list of suggestions to do in bulk - primarily making the buttons at the top more prominent. What do you guys think of making all of the main menus dropDowns from the nav bar a t the top? I know it will reduce some of the home page content - but will it be evident to the regular user that there's additional contnent to be found there?

Please let me know - Joe and I want to make the site as valuable and friendly resource as we can so that our membership has the most up-to-0date information availabale.

BTW, Thank you for all of the constructive input - good or bad - it makes working on the site a much more rewarding experience and one we hope you come to enjoy and find useful over time.

BTW - I'm working on a document (post) that will itemize all of the new features available on the site. Please stay tuned :)

[markie@unformat]

That is better. Thanks!

Perhaps some of the main titles on the main page need to be bigger, bolder, or dare I say it, in a different colour.

I like complaining.

[martin]

That is better. Thanks!

Perhaps some of the main titles on the main page need to be bigger, bolder, or dare I say it, in a different colour.

I like complaining.

Do you mean just the feature titles?

[markie@unformat]

Umm, a few of the titles blend into the text. So the titles do not really stand out, which makes it hard to get to where you want to go at a glance.

For example Latest forum topics is around the same size text (might be smaller) and blends right in with the topics titles.


It think it is coming on well though.

[martin]

Umm, a few of the titles blend into the text. So the titles do not really stand out, which makes it hard to get to where you want to go at a glance.

For example Latest forum topics is around the same size text (might be smaller) and blends right in with the topics titles.


It think it is coming on well though.

OK, I think I know what you mean - I'll work on the styles and see if I can make them stand out a little better - it'll also help up break up the home page...

[jfoley]

my worry with losing the nav links on the left is that a lot of useful pages will not be as obvious to new visitors... perhaps we need to work on re-organizing the nav-bar links first...

What he said! Plus - the links section on the left seems to be redundant now - suggest moving the calendar list and more news list to the left column. Move my profile stuff to the bottom of the column. On the right - shorten the Forums list and swap the sponsor links with the poll section.

[riderx]

Martin -

Tried to post in the other thread, but it says I don't have permission. I've been snubbed!

Overall things are looking good.

FYI - The contact info page (http://www.more-mtb.org/index.php?page=contact) is out of date, unless Scud is still prez...

[Squirrel Girl]

I've been having a lot of problems with logging in. I've had to reset my password about twice per day. I seem to do better at home (Mac OSX, and it's impossible to log on at work (Win 2000). I meant to keep experimenting to figure out exactly what the problem is, but I'm posting now anyway.

When I click on "Members" it kept giving me a login prompt that I didn't get to work, until I reset that, then changed it. Now it only gives my membership payment.

Where do I click to find all the members listed??? Is there a way to access PMs other than to find someone you want to PM and click on their name in a thread? What if I want to read an old PM and not send? Where do I click to do that?

I used to stay in the "invisible" mode. I can't find that option anywhere.

There's a nice gallery where I posted a picture of my bike. It doesn't seem to have the old pictures I put on the old website, though (no big deal). But I also clicked on the "Member Pages" and it has two bike shots that are different the bikes in the gallery. That confuses me.

Thanks,
Barbara

[jfoley]

on the "my profile" dropdown select "edit options"

you might want to PM martin with the other issues to make sure he sees them


I used to stay in the "invisible" mode. I can't find that option anywhere.

[martin]

I've been having a lot of problems with logging in. I've had to reset my password about twice per day. I seem to do better at home (Mac OSX, and it's impossible to log on at work (Win 2000). I meant to keep experimenting to figure out exactly what the problem is, but I'm posting now anyway.

When I click on "Members" it kept giving me a login prompt that I didn't get to work, until I reset that, then changed it. Now it only gives my membership payment.


The page you are going to is your MORE membership page. Thta's where you manage your actual MORE Membership, not your forum profile.


Where do I click to find all the members listed??? Is there a way to access PMs other than to find someone you want to PM and click on their name in a thread? What if I want to read an old PM and not send? Where do I click to do that?

I used to stay in the "invisible" mode. I can't find that option anywhere.


On the navBar at the top there is a "My Profile" button. CLick that and you will get a dropDown menu:


Last item on the list is the "Forum Member List"
You can access PM's the way you mention and by contacting the members via the member list
Under the same drop down on the navBar "My Profile" there is a link to your Private Messages. Also, on the home page, when you come into the site there is a welcome box with your user info - one of the links is to your Private Messages
Under the same "My Profile" button there is another option for "Options" first item on that page is "invisible mode" Explore the "My Profile" menu - that's where you can customize all of your forum options...



There's a nice gallery where I posted a picture of my bike. It doesn't seem to have the old pictures I put on the old website, though (no big deal). But I also clicked on the "Member Pages" and it has two bike shots that are different the bikes in the gallery. That confuses me.

Thanks,
Barbara

I had to manually move the pictures from the old gallery to the new one - There is a "members bikes" cateogry if you send me the url to your bike I will change the "owner of the image" - right now all the images are owned by "Spooky" a member I created for the manual move...

The Member Pages you have clicked is the list of members who have created their own "Bike Garage" this is the feature tht is only available to actual MORE Members - I sent you a PM about this the other day. If you are an actual MORE member you have a link in your profile page to "Edit Garage" You should see it...

Let me know if you have more questions...

[martin]

Martin -

Tried to post in the other thread, but it says I don't have permission. I've been snubbed!

Overall things are looking good.

FYI - The contact info page (http://www.more-mtb.org/index.php?page=contact) is out of date, unless Scud is still prez...

Can you try again? let me know...

[jfoley]

fixed... the version on the old site must have been update after the page on the new site was created.

FYI - The contact info page (http://www.more-mtb.org/index.php?page=contact) is out of date, unless Scud is still prez...

[riderx]

OK, I can post here now. Thanks!

[Squirrel Girl]

On the navBar at the top there is a "My Profile" button. CLick that and you will get a dropDown menu:
Under the same "My Profile" button there is another option for "Options" first item on that page is "invisible mode" Explore the "My Profile" menu - that's where you can customize all of your forum options...Not for me! :rolleyes:
About a year ago I had an issue like this. I couldn't do something, wrote into the forum, was told how, but the option wasn't available to me. Hmmmm, maybe MORE is trying to tell me something.....

For me, under "My Profile" the first two items are:
Login & Privacy
Messaging and Notification

But I don't see the invisible option on the page at all.

[Squirrel Girl]

On the navBar at the top there is a "My Profile" button. CLick that and you will get a dropDown menu:


Last item on the list is the "Forum Member List"
OK, got that one. Thanks! Guess I was in "old dog" mode and expected it to be somewhere else.

But now I've discovered a different issue. I am trying to respond to your answers, and also explore the MORE site and somehow posted that previous email before making it clear that I'm using a Mac with OS 10.2.

I was just going to edit that post, and there isn't an "edit" button in the window now. :o

[Squirrel Girl]

The page you are going to is your MORE membership page. Thta's where you manage your actual MORE Membership, not your forum profile.

The Member Pages you have clicked is the list of members who have created their own "Bike Garage" this is the feature tht is only available to actual MORE Members - I sent you a PM about this the other day. If you are an actual MORE member you have a link in your profile page to "Edit Garage" You should see it...

Let me know if you have more questions...Right now I have so many overlapping issues that it's hard to know exactly where I am, and which answer belongs to which question.

Yes, you did send the PM. I was pretty sure I answered you. Yes, I did discover that that was my MORE membership page, not the forum info page. I did a reset password, and now it lists my payment to MORE. So part of the website knows I'm a MORE member. But I don't have "Edit Garage" as an option in My Profile. I don't know if I'm looking in the wrong place or just not there like the "invisible" option is invisible to me.

Man, Martin, you really know how to punish yourself. Moving all those picture manually! Best wishes to you!

[Squirrel Girl]

Under the same drop down on the navBar "My Profile" there is a link to your Private Messages. Also, on the home page, when you come into the site there is a welcome box with your user info - one of the links is to your Private MessagesYes, I now see that there is a link on the MORE home page. For me, I have a link to the Forum in my bookmarks, so I usually bypass that page altogether. In fact Before you moved "The Pit" to the top of the page, I had a link to that so I could bypass the other stuff.

However, I don't see a ilnk in the drop down from the navBar "My Profile." Here's what I have:
My Profile
My Profile Options
New Posts
Mark Forums Read
Open Buddy List
User Control Panel
Edit Signature
Edit Avatar
Edit Profile
Edit Options
Miscellaneous
Subscribed Threads
My Profile
Who's Online
Forum Members

[drevil]

In honor of the new site, a quick poll...

BTW, We accept constructive criticism and sugestions...

I can't get the pic uploads to work. It asks me to log in (when I already am), so I do. Then it takes me to an error page after the second log in.

[martin]

I can't get the pic uploads to work. It asks me to log in (when I already am), so I do. Then it takes me to an error page after the second log in.

Are you trying to upload as an attachment? Or to the actual image gallery?

[drevil]

Are you trying to upload as an attachment? Or to the actual image gallery?

Directly into the Image Gallery. I can log in to post obviously, but it won't let me log in to that section so I can put an image in the Gallery. Have I been bad? :confused:

[martin]

Directly into the Image Gallery. I can log in to post obviously, but it won't let me log in to that section so I can put an image in the Gallery. Have I been bad? :confused:

I'm sure you've been bad... But you should still be able to upload...

I'll digin a bit and see what's going on.

[martin]

Directly into the Image Gallery. I can log in to post obviously, but it won't let me log in to that section so I can put an image in the Gallery. Have I been bad? :confused:

I've checked and everything seems to be working ok - Can you eMail me the image you're trying to upload?

Also where are you trying to upload it specifically?