W@w 2008

[Trailcreep]

The Wednesdays at Wakefield W@W course is marked and ready to race this wednesday - weather permiting. Be careful riding wakefiled in the opposite direction of the race arrows for the next month.

[Griever]

Anyone want to place bets on how many of the races get rained out this year? :mad:

At the rate things have been going, we'll be lucky to get the full series in.

[JFritsch]

No rain the the forecast!

Anyone been out there last night or today? Any standing water or slicks spots?

[thelankymanx2]

Well my firsrt W@W went well. Really well actually. Won the Clydesdale. From what I have been told that was mainly die to Joe Gwardz (is that how it is spelt). Just need to keep my holiday pounds on for the rest of the series.

Good race. Loved the course. Nice and flowing and very fast.

Good work PVC for putting on the race. Just wish that it was not down in NoVa.

Top work to Tuba for placing. Maybe if he had remembered to bring along his gears he may have won.

[chowderbutt]

it did go really well last night. Though I sucked down too many honest teas and was bouncing off the walls until 3:00 am this morning.

[clarkin2]

Well my firsrt W@W went well. Really well actually. Won the Clydesdale. From what I have been told that was mainly die to Joe Gwardz (is that how it is spelt). Just need to keep my holiday pounds on for the rest of the series.



do you weigh 200#?! you don't look it! :)

note to self, next time bring gears, or at least a 16t cog. fun time though. good exercise.

[atlantis]

Next week I'll be there, and yah if Joel makes it down clydes gonna be a bit harder. I was wondering why I didn't see him around last night.

[JFritsch]

Well my firsrt W@W went well. Really well actually. Won the Clydesdale. From what I have been told that was mainly die to Joe Gwardz (is that how it is spelt). Just need to keep my holiday pounds on for the rest of the series.

Good race. Loved the course. Nice and flowing and very fast.

Good work PVC for putting on the race. Just wish that it was not down in NoVa.

Top work to Tuba for placing. Maybe if he had remembered to bring along his gears he may have won.

Congrats!

It was quite the turn out for the second race. LOTS of racers on the trail.

You will learn to be happy we don't have to drive any farther than NoVa to find MTB racing. Rush hour traffic doesn't even bother me at all any more :D

[tuba_transport]

Next week I'll be there, and yah if Joel makes it down clydes gonna be a bit harder. I was wondering why I didn't see him around last night.

Doug too for that matter. They are both monster riders.

[CRAIG2]

Gwadzilla will not only crush you on the course, but he may devour your soul as he drops you. :eek:

[xopobeko]

Anyone know when to expect results to be posted? I had to leave directly after, so didn't get a chance to look.

[thelankymanx2]

do you weigh 200#?! you don't look it! :)

note to self, next time bring gears, or at least a 16t cog. fun time though. good exercise.

I just break the 200lbs barrier. I have a week in New Orleans and a week in the Bahamas to thank. Now I just have to try and turn that fat into muscle. It also helps to have a 6"3 frame to put the weight on Gears might not be a bad idea. Although it is bloody flat out at Wakefield

Congrats!

It was quite the turn out for the second race. LOTS of racers on the trail.

You will learn to be happy we don't have to drive any farther than NoVa to find MTB racing. Rush hour traffic doesn't even bother me at all any more :D

I guess I was just spoilt in Australia with a crit that ran 50 weeks a year and was rideable from the city. Very nice having something like that so close.....that and no Beltway to deal with.

Well I hope that Joel and Doug rock up for the next race. Will see what happens then.

Anyone know when to expect results to be posted? I had to leave directly after, so didn't get a chance to look.

Judging by how long it took last night to sort out the podiums I would say that you will not see the results till tonight at the earliest

See everyone next week. Hopefully the nice weather continues

[FIX_BKS]

Many of you know the link, but for those who don't, you'll want to check here (http://www.potomacvelo.com/events/waw/wawResults.asp). I'm hoping the pictures are going up with the results... he chose a great spot!!

[clarkin2]

Although it is bloody flat out at Wakefield


exactly. need. more. gear. or a big ring.

yeah New Orleans does that to people, even in a week!

[joep]

With Walsh and Rickyd both flatting out, will this be the year I finally enter the top 10 at Wakefield?!? Will I maintain my dominance over MOBL?!? I sit giddy like a schoolboy awaiting the results.

[walsh]

I sit giddy like a schoolboy awaiting the results.

I'm mildly interested to see if the one fellow I caught on a singlespeed was actually racing in the singlespeed class.

Thanks to the racers and organizers. It's pretty neat to have a grass-roots short-track series to keep things interesting.

Joe, I'll wager you one red dot on the outcome of the next race.:D

[joep]

Joe, I'll wager you one red dot on the outcome of the next race.:D

I just gave you a green dot for not catching up to me after you flatted. But it's provisional pending the results of next week.

[tuba_transport]

I'm mildly interested to see if the one fellow I caught on a singlespeed was actually racing in the singlespeed class.

No. That was me racing my singlespeed in Clydesdale. You must have STILL been on the racecourse when we started. :D

[Griever]

Just in case anyone hasn't checked yet, results are up, pictures coming soon!

[thelankymanx2]

The results are up on the Website. Only has Total time atm. I guess they will post up the rest as they get it organised.

Silly question but will we be using the same course every week?

Glad I was not in Sport that was crazy. 51 racers. I think that a few people should be going up to Expert or legitimately sandbag in SS or Clydesdale

Al

[29x1]

I think that a few people should be going up to Expert or legitimately sandbag in SS or Clydesdale

Al

Legitimately sandbag:confused::confused::mad:
They are open categories.

[chowderbutt]

yes it is the same course every week.

[JFritsch]

51 sport riders?! WOW! Explains why the trails were so crowded. Great to see so many people racing!

I could drop down to the vet race to get one less person in the 7 pm race ;)

[walsh]

You are going down, clown.

After I finish processing last night's beers.
And after I fix that flat I discovered this morning.

But you're going down.:p

[joep]

You are going down, clown.

After I finish processing last night's beers.
And after I fix that flat I discovered this morning.

But you're going down.:p

Not this week you won't. I will sit this one out and bask in the glory of wiping the course with your scrawny arse (and Rickyd's and Tony's) for another week. BTW, now it's official (http://www.potomacvelo.com/events/waw/results/2008waw1_6pm.html).

Pick on someone your own size, slim. (oh, wait a minute...:o)

[vamodeo]

So maybe since Joe is sitting out, I can make the top 20! :)

Vj

Not this week you won't. I will sit this one out and bask in the glory of wiping the course with your scrawny arse (and Rickyd's and Tony's) for another week. BTW, now it's official (http://www.potomacvelo.com/events/waw/results/2008waw1_6pm.html).

Pick on someone your own size, slim. (oh, wait a minute...:o)

[drevil]

So maybe since Joe is sitting out, I can make the top 20! :)

Vj

I'm out too, so top 19 :D

rickyd

[walsh]

I am the biggest pansy.

No, I am the biggest pansy.

Next week will decide.

[ChrisJ]

This sucks. Working nights now so I can't make any of the W@W. But I will be at the cranky monkey suffering along with everyone.

[RubberSideDown]

My first W@W and I had a blast! Great race to all. I hope to make it out next week.

[FIX_BKS]

In case anyone was wondering... BYKGRL (Helen), racing Female Sport yesterday, number 234 is okay.

She did an endo on the pumptrack in the bowl on the last hump before heading into the woods on the race course yesterday at a pretty good rate of speed. Her helmet was cracked in half and her face, shoulder and elbow are pretty beat up - but nothing is broken. We got to the ER at about 8:30 and didn't leave until 1am.

Good times.

Thanks to the photographer who walked her bike back with her! Gary was that you? Did you get the shot? :rolleyes:

[atlantis]

Glad to hear she's okay(ish). Hope she recovers well and is back in action soon!

[MyOtherBrotherL]

In case anyone was wondering... BYKGRL (Helen), racing Female Sport yesterday, number 234 is okay.

She did an endo on the pumptrack in the bowl on the last hump before heading into the woods on the race course yesterday at a pretty good rate of speed. Her helmet was cracked in half and her face, shoulder and elbow are pretty beat up - but nothing is broken. We got to the ER at about 8:30 and didn't leave until 1am....

Thanks for the update and I’m glad she’s OK. As I was leaving I saw a girl who had her arm in a sling and it obviously looked like she had just wrecked on a bike. I was wondering what had happened.

And just to pass along some Wakefield knowledge. The bowl is the section of woods sandwiched between 495 and the new ball field. That section of trail was not in the race course. I think your talking about the rollers on the Phase I side of the Power Lines. Doing casual rides on the rollers is completely different than racing on them. Riders really need to make a concerted effort to either keep both wheels down or to make it a jump. A lack of concentration and too much front brake causes the real wheel to air.

L

PS I feel compelled to help correct people with Wakefield terminology because I fear the 911 call or the call to the front desk of Audrey Moore from a downed rider who thinks they are in one place when they are really in an other.

[dharma]

Thanks for the update and I’m glad she’s OK. As I was leaving I saw a girl who had her arm in a sling and it obviously looked like she had just wrecked on a bike. I was wondering what had happened.

And just to pass along some Wakefield knowledge. The bowl is the section of woods sandwiched between 495 and the new ball field. That section of trail was not in the race course. I think your talking about the rollers on the Phase I side of the Power Lines. Doing casual rides on the rollers is completely different than racing on them. Riders really need to make a concerted effort to either keep both wheels down or to make it a jump. A lack of concentration and too much front brake causes the real wheel to air.

L

PS I feel compelled to help correct people with Wakefield terminology because I fear the 911 call or the call to the front desk of Audrey Moore from a downed rider who thinks they are in one place when they are really in an other.

What a relief to hear Helen is ok, I passed her on the trail too. I definitely take it slow on the rollers (and every other part of the course for that matter) but especially on the rollers making sure to keep both wheels firmly planted on the ground.

Also - Larry - fyi there are some bees in the woods ther after the rollers. Best description is after the logs and some straightaway trail, you hit one tiny dip, then a bit more track before hitting a second larger dip that sweeps to the left with the log. right there after that dip is where Christine and I both got stung. It's just before you head up the climb and then head off to the right again. hope that makes a little sense!

[EJensen]

I feel compelled to help correct people with Wakefield terminology because I fear the 911 call or the call to the front desk of Audrey Moore from a downed rider who thinks they are in one place when they are really in an other.

Speaking of which, where can I find a map of Wakefield that identifies the different phases? I checked the various Wakefield maps in the map gallery, but if there's one that shows the boundaries of all the phases, I missed it.

Regards,
Eric

[MyOtherBrotherL]

.....Also - Larry - fyi there are some bees in the woods ther after the rollers. Best description is after the logs and some straightaway trail, you hit one tiny dip, then a bit more track before hitting a second larger dip that sweeps to the left with the log. right there after that dip is where Christine and I both got stung. It's just before you head up the climb and then head off to the right again. hope that makes a little sense!

Hope Spings Eternal......

I even tried to have Renee translate , no joy.

Go to the GRID MAP in the Galleries.

http://www.more-mtb.org/galleries/showimage.php?i=863&c=9

The race course sits between G and O. Let me know the GRID Number and I'll get with Mike.

[firedog]

Thanks for the update and I’m glad she’s OK. As I was leaving I saw a girl who had her arm in a sling and it obviously looked like she had just wrecked on a bike. I was wondering what had happened.

And just to pass along some Wakefield knowledge. The bowl is the section of woods sandwiched between 495 and the new ball field. That section of trail was not in the race course. I think your talking about the rollers on the Phase I side of the Power Lines. Doing casual rides on the rollers is completely different than racing on them. Riders really need to make a concerted effort to either keep both wheels down or to make it a jump. A lack of concentration and too much front brake causes the real wheel to air.

L

PS I feel compelled to help correct people with Wakefield terminology because I fear the 911 call or the call to the front desk of Audrey Moore from a downed rider who thinks they are in one place when they are really in an other.

Glad to hear that Helen (BYKGRL) wasn't hurt to bad!!! Any new update on her injuries?

Having been on the receiving end of a 911 call that took us a while to find the person, is there any way to get a really good trail map posted out there to help the folks that don't know the trails very well. The grid map in the pictures section is good but doesn't have the area names on it.

Chris

[MyOtherBrotherL]

Speaking of which, where can I find a map of Wakefield that identifies the different phases? I checked the various Wakefield maps in the map gallery, but if there's one that shows the boundaries of all the phases, I missed it.

Regards,
Eric

Jackson had it posted somewhere but I can't remember where.

And I've just waisted another hour trying to attach the picture here and then trying to add it onto the Forums.

IT'S VERY FRUSTRATING!!!!!!!!

[MyOtherBrotherL]

....IT'S VERY FRUSTRATING!!!!!!!!

OK - For the time being I posted the map to my FLICKR account.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/7539745@N05/2637041204/

Phase I: RED
Phase II: BLUE
Phase III: YELLOW

[mtbmore]

OK - For the time being I posted the map to my FLICKR account.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/7539745@N05/2637041204/

Phase I: RED
Phase II: BLUE
Phase III: YELLOW

http://www.more-mtb.org/galleries/gal_imgs/2/2637041204_4cf5cb4801_thumb.jpg (http://www.more-mtb.org/galleries/showimage.php?i=932&c=9)

The map is now in the MORE Gallery
Phase I: RED
Phase II: BLUE
Phase III: YELLOW



Scud

[eloach]

What a relief to hear Helen is ok, I passed her on the trail too. I definitely take it slow on the rollers (and every other part of the course for that matter) but especially on the rollers making sure to keep both wheels firmly planted on the ground.

Also - Larry - fyi there are some bees in the woods ther after the rollers. Best description is after the logs and some straightaway trail, you hit one tiny dip, then a bit more track before hitting a second larger dip that sweeps to the left with the log. right there after that dip is where Christine and I both got stung. It's just before you head up the climb and then head off to the right again. hope that makes a little sense!

There were no bees there today. Maybe they were Yellow Jackets? They get real frisky near dusk if anything is in the area of their nest. They usually nest in the dirt via a small "snake" look hole and ALWAYS have more than one entrance.

[dharma]

There were no bees there today. Maybe they were Yellow Jackets? They get real frisky near dusk if anything is in the area of their nest. They usually nest in the dirt via a small "snake" look hole and ALWAYS have more than one entrance.

honestly, i couldn't tell you the difference between a bee or a yellow jacket or a wasp... :o all i know is it was yellow and black and stung :mad:

larry - Grid location L/6 - there's a dip that turns to the left as you head towards the climb with the gravel/stones and U-turn to the right at the top. stinger culprits are right after that "dip" i think there's a log that lays on the side of the trail right there too.

thanks!

[EJensen]

The map is now in the MORE Gallery

Thanks for posting that.

I posted a reply with the color code information. You may wish to edit your description to include that information, then delete my post.

Regards,
Eric

[Trailcreep]

We had 3 yellow jacket nests on the course last year. I'll try and locate the nest and take it out. If you know exactly where they are please mark it with scrap of caution tape tied to a tree nearby. You can usually get pretty close to the nest if you move slow.



honestly, i couldn't tell you the difference between a bee or a yellow jacket or a wasp... :o all i know is it was yellow and black and stung :mad:

larry - Grid location L/6 - there's a dip that turns to the left as you head towards the climb with the gravel/stones and U-turn to the right at the top. stinger culprits are right after that "dip" i think there's a log that lays on the side of the trail right there too.

thanks!

[FIX_BKS]

Thanks for the update and I’m glad she’s OK. As I was leaving I saw a girl who had her arm in a sling and it obviously looked like she had just wrecked on a bike. I was wondering what had happened.

And just to pass along some Wakefield knowledge. The bowl is the section of woods sandwiched between 495 and the new ball field. That section of trail was not in the race course. I think your talking about the rollers on the Phase I side of the Power Lines. Doing casual rides on the rollers is completely different than racing on them. Riders really need to make a concerted effort to either keep both wheels down or to make it a jump. A lack of concentration and too much front brake causes the real wheel to air.

L

PS I feel compelled to help correct people with Wakefield terminology because I fear the 911 call or the call to the front desk of Audrey Moore from a downed rider who thinks they are in one place when they are really in an other.

Thanks Larry - I appreciate the correction and following clarification. It's funny how you can convince yourself of something, even when it isn't right! :p

You said it just right about the rollers- either keep the wheels down or make it a jump. Helen was somewhere right between, though this was just a fluke of sorts. She's ridden that secton dozens of times and raced it last week as well...I think she just started sailing and possibly had more air that she was used to ending in a nose dive.

Recovery has been good, but our sailing trip planned for today has been cancelled. They did a cat scan and x-rays which revealed no broken bones and the final diagnosis was a combination of a shoulder strain and sprain. Ouch.

Reading the rest of the threads, I should mention that there was another guy walking around the ER in dusty spandex. He had been stung by whatever was out there and is allergic. Fortunately he had a medication with him to combat it, but without it his airway would've swelled shut! He was leaving as we got there, but had come to the ER to be sure the medication had worked.

[BYKGRL]

Glad to hear that Helen (BYKGRL) wasn't hurt to bad!!! Any new update on her injuries?


Hi everyone :)

Thanks for all your concern.. and thanks especially to the 2 photographers that helped me off the course... longest... walk... ever! My shoulder is sore and my face looks like I went a little crazy with the eye shadow, but no broken bones & I'll get a new helmet out of the deal.

I'm gonna try out a test run with MORE on the Tuesday night ride. If all goes well, I'll see you guys on the course for the race!

~Helen

[jvanbrecht]

Hi everyone :)

Thanks for all your concern.. and thanks especially to the 2 photographers that helped me off the course... longest... walk... ever! My shoulder is sore and my face looks like I went a little crazy with the eye shadow, but no broken bones & I'll get a new helmet out of the deal.

I'm gonna try out a test run with MORE on the Tuesday night ride. If all goes well, I'll see you guys on the course for the race!

~Helen

Glad your okay, I had a nice accident right there as well, ridden it hundreds of times.. sometimes you just get a little too comfy with something and mistakes happen....

[Trailcreep]

I looked for the Bees today and couldn't find them. I don't think anybody had a problem with them during last weeks 6pm race. What probably happened was somebody went off trail to pass and disturbed the area around the nest. I left 3 orange stick flags with Bees written on the flag next ot the brown FCPA sign between the dip and the top of the climb. If someone sees the bees please put the flags before and after the nest on the same side of the trail as the nest.

[thelankymanx2]

Well the 6pm race at least. Hopefully the rest will be up soon but I am only asuming

[JFritsch]

Well the 6pm race at least. Hopefully the rest will be up soon but I am only asuming

They will have the rest of the results up, don't worry. Remember, all the work is done by volunteers. With out then we would have no races!

[vamodeo]

There is no way those times posted are correct.

Vj

They will have the rest of the results up, don't worry. Remember, all the work is done by volunteers. With out then we would have no races!

[tuba_transport]

They will have the rest of the results up, don't worry. Remember, all the work is done by volunteers. With out then we would have no races!

I am also anxious/

[JFritsch]

7pm and 6pm results from the second race are up!

http://www.potomacvelo.com/events/waw/wawResults.asp

[walsh]

I'm gonna try out a test run with MORE on the Tuesday night ride. If all goes well, I'll see you guys on the course for the race!


That's the spirit!!

At the first race, I was hotdogging for the camera and took a real digger in that same spot. "Look where you want to go" + "smile at the camera" = flying off the trail :( I got lucky, but it's not a pleasant place to go down.

Helen, you don't by any chance commute east on Route 7 from near the Sheraton in the afternoon, do you? I think I recognize your avatar from real life. (I'm usually the nut pedaling down the access road with an orange messenger bag.)

[MyOtherBrotherL]

There is no way those times posted are correct.

Vj

I'm pretty HAPPY with mine from race two.......:D:D:D

[DaveG]

7pm and 6pm results from the second race are up!

http://www.potomacvelo.com/events/waw/wawResults.asp

Man, you're tearing it up out there! Nice job!

[tuba_transport]

7pm and 6pm results from the second race are up!

http://www.potomacvelo.com/events/waw/wawResults.asp

Wow, many classes got WAY faster on Race #2. Joel destroyed Clyde with a 50:30. Jeez, that is 5th place in singlespeed, 4th place "sport", 1st in 35+, and somewhere around 15th Expert. All speeds went up. I went almost a minute faster and went down 4 places.

Gotta up my EPO dosage. :D

[vamodeo]

Since I have not been doing the scoring this year, the boys are having trouble with the computer program used for scoring. There is no way those times are correct. It is based on the computer clock compared to the starters watch + a time correction for the wave starts. If that is not all exactly right the times will be off. The 45+ boys are fast, but I don't believe they got 5 minutes faster from week 1 to 2! The SS times are about 45 seconds slow based on my clock.

Vj

Wow, many classes got WAY faster on Race #2. Joel destroyed Clyde with a 50:30. Jeez, that is 5th place in singlespeed, 4th place "sport", 1st in 35+, and somewhere around 15th Expert. All speeds went up. I went almost a minute faster and went down 4 places.

Gotta up my EPO dosage. :D

[thelankymanx2]

Well I felt like I was 2 minutes faster. Pity I might not have been. Damn that.

Good race though. Won the first week then got smashed by 4 minutes when Gwadzila rocks up.

There was an error in the Clydesdale race I (Alistair McDonald) got third and not second and third. I think the second place getter was Craig?? Maybe.

[rscobb]

My name is up in the list but they did not give me a time. Anybody know if the missing times will be posted?

[MyOtherBrotherL]

Since I have not been doing the scoring this year, the boys are having trouble with the computer program used for scoring. There is no way those times are correct. It is based on the computer clock compared to the starters watch + a time correction for the wave starts. If that is not all exactly right the times will be off. The 45+ boys are fast, but I don't believe they got 5 minutes faster from week 1 to 2! The SS times are about 45 seconds slow based on my clock.
Vj

When I talked to Omari last week, he indicated that the first race did not adjust for the different start times of the classes. They were going to adjust that for week two.

Also, every year I time myself and then look at the official time. It's always about 45 seconds to a minute 15 off.

Welcome to the racing side of the WAW........:D

[BYKGRL]

That's the spirit!!

At the first race, I was hotdogging for the camera and took a real digger in that same spot. "Look where you want to go" + "smile at the camera" = flying off the trail :( I got lucky, but it's not a pleasant place to go down.

Helen, you don't by any chance commute east on Route 7 from near the Sheraton in the afternoon, do you? I think I recognize your avatar from real life. (I'm usually the nut pedaling down the access road with an orange messenger bag.)

haha if the camera guy had been there this time, I was planning on at least SMILING, since my shots from the 1st race weren't very complimentary. BUt alas, no photographer to catch my crash in action. And I definitely wasn't smilig :eek: TG Ken was there to assist!

I DO commute down route 7.. and typically down the access rd as well! i'll keep an eye out for ya (not that I don't already!) :D

[walsh]

I DO commute down route 7.. and typically down the access rd as well! i'll keep an eye out for ya (not that I don't already!) :D

I thought I remembered that licence plate and a bunch of Kona stickers.

[FIX_BKS]

haha if the camera guy had been there this time, I was planning on at least SMILING, since my shots from the 1st race weren't very complimentary. BUt alas, no photographer to catch my crash in action. And I definitely wasn't smilig :eek: TG Ken was there to assist!

Smiling was an understatement for our friend Kyle (http://www.pbase.com/gmr2048/image/99333662), whom we've met a few times on the Tuesday night rides :)

[BYKGRL]

I thought I remembered that licence plate and a bunch of Kona stickers.

that's me :) wait wait.. you must be that kangaroo I see near tysons? WTF? orange messenger bag? heehee

p.s. nice job KYLE!

[tuba_transport]

p.s. nice job KYLE!

Kyle is an inspiration to ride with. No excuses. He just rides and brings us all back to those early days.

[vamodeo]

Ok, so the times were really off for WAW #1 and WaW #2 were not that far off for most classes. Now I just feel REALLY slow! :)

Vj


When I talked to Omari last week, he indicated that the first race did not adjust for the different start times of the classes. They were going to adjust that for week two.

Also, every year I time myself and then look at the official time. It's always about 45 seconds to a minute 15 off.

Welcome to the racing side of the WAW........:D

[pete]

Dry 2 weeks in a row? Not to worry, WaW is back to her old tricks. Pretty ominous looking out here in Herdonia.

40-60% possibility of showers is the worst. You just don't know what to do. Should I sit in traffic for a rainout? Do I have the right tires? Air pressure?

Usually it backfires on me, either I opt out and it never rains at Wake or I go and it does. I guess it wouldn't be Waw without threatening weather. Throws a little $hit in the game. ;)

[GF70]

So is each lap counted by hand for each rider? I thought by now a transponder system would have been put in place. Each rider can buy a personal transponder to keep and use for life with this system. I know, the system probably is not that cheap, but it would save alot of headache during registration and actual hand counting of laps. And of course pay itself off eventually.

http://www.amb-it.com/chipx-c-1.html?osCsid=3aff46705abe973ba9f7d 53b55d8c61b

[JFritsch]

Dry 2 weeks in a row? Not to worry, WaW is back to her old tricks. Pretty ominous looking out here in Herdonia.

40-60% possibility of showers is the worst. You just don't know what to do. Should I sit in traffic for a rainout? Do I have the right tires? Air pressure?

Usually it backfires on me, either I opt out and it never rains at Wake or I go and it does. I guess it wouldn't be Waw without threatening weather. Throws a little $hit in the game. ;)

Be happy you are on the south side of the Potomac! :)

[Griever]

If they cancel the race is it posted here or on PVC site? I can't remember.

[mtbmore]

If they cancel the race is it posted here or on PVC site? I can't remember.


Both places will be posted. Check the PVC site for the official ruling. This site is updated based on what someone that reads this site sees on the PVC site and posts up.

Scud

[chowderbutt]

Kyle is an inspiration to ride with. No excuses. He just rides and brings us all back to those early days.

kyle is a graduate of the tfk school of mt biking, we require that smile:)

[spin]

So what's the status up there at Wakefield? Any chance the race will get rained out tonight. It's been raining all day here in Richmond. Just wanted to check before I decide to drive up there this evening.

[GF70]

So far it looks like no accumulated precipitation in Annandale, VA for the last 24 hours...

http://www.accuweather.com/forecast-past24.asp?partner=accuweather&traveler=1&zipChg=1&zipcode=22003&metric=0

[gmr2048]

I don't know how much I'd trust that that "no precip in Annandale". When I check for Falls Church, it says the same thing, and it's been raining here since I left my house this morning around 8am.

[bkjoe]

so far, at least. I'm 1/2mi from Wkfld and the sidewalks are dry. We had maybe a 10 min. sprinkle this morning. we'll see what's coming later.

[Jim D]

So what's the status up there at Wakefield? Any chance the race will get rained out tonight. It's been raining all day here in Richmond. Just wanted to check before I decide to drive up there this evening.

For the folks that may drive from a distance, what's the cancellation protocol? I THINK (because these trails are so heavily used and rain-sensitive) that WAW will cancel even at the last minute. So if it is dry all day but then breaks out raining at 5pm they might cancel? Is that correct??

[drevil]

For the folks that may drive from a distance, what's the cancellation protocol? I THINK (because these trails are so heavily used and rain-sensitive) that WAW will cancel even at the last minute. So if it is dry all day but then breaks out raining at 5pm they might cancel? Is that correct??Yes, they have done that before (understandably).

[mtbmore]

We only have 5 wednesdays to work with because after the last week of July it is too dark for the 7pm race. Therefore we do everything we can to get the race run without doing any permanant damage to the trails or putting our racers in danger of lightning and high winds.

In the past (8 years now) we have more than once

A. cancelled a race early in the day based on a weather forecast and no rain fell
B. not cancelled a race based on a weather forecast and had to cancel at 5:30 because of torrential rains at 5:15.
C. Cancelled a race early and rains came
D. Not cancelled a race gambling on a bad weather forecast and did in fact get the race in before the rains came.

So now you know why MOBL is no longer agrravating his ulcer on Wed deciding what to recommend to to the Race Director.

Scud

[Trailcreep]

It's my call...so far we have had no rain, except for an early morning sprinkle. Therefore the race is on as of 1:30pm. If the radar looks ominous around 3pm we may cancel and update the website. If we get rain later after we have opened registration we may cancel and won't be able to update website. In which case we will notify the Rec Center front desk, there number is 703.321.7081.

[Linneke]

I slept poorly last night and had spicy Indian for lunch. I vote we cancel.

[camp]

We only have 5 wednesdays to work with because after the last week of July it is too dark for the 7pm race.I'm saying this only to keep my annual streak going:D, and perhaps to get a chuckle and roll of the eyes from MOBL & VAmodeo.:rolleyes:

Why doesn't the 4-race series span the summer solstice every year? This year's solstice was on a weekend, so we would've had 2 races before, and 2 races after the longest day of the year. That is the best we can do.

Starting earlier in June also reduces the chance of the pop-up t-storms that are most common in late July-August.

[mtbmore]

the wed before the 1st race this year poured down rain. Also school was still insession in some jurisdictions. We used to only do the weds in July but went to the last wed in june to help our cause. Also we usually take the wed of 4th of july off which we did not do this year. That was a brilliant decision by someone because we had awesome weather and almost the largest turnout ever.

[MTBMike]

I think most here would agree that if it didn't T-Storm it wouldn't be W@W :D

[toonces]

Just got back from Wakefield and the racetrack is in good shape as of 3:00 pm. Just a few soft spots in salamander and the stream trail.

Also located the bees which are technically yellow jackets. I marked the nest with the orange flags Mike provided. The nest is in the rear of the small log to the right of the middle flag. The bees are pretty active so you need to keep to the left side of the trail or the racers behind you will likely pay the price. :eek: Yellow jackets are wasps and since their stingers are not barbed, they can sting you over and over. This area is right after you come out of the last big dip in Phase I before you reach the top as Dharma described earlier.

http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/6065/img0718ik7.jpg

BEE careful! :p

[mtbmore]

I just spoke to Mike Pattisall and he is at Wakefield. We will run the race tonight unless we get thunderstorms during the race. It is possible that will happen but based on current radar we are going to try and run the race as scheduled.

Scud

[eloach]

The trails are sweet and hard packed. The mud from the prior races has either dried or been filled in. Fast, Fast, Fast conditions if they hold. This is as of about 2:45.

Where toonces spotted the bees there was an additional hole on the edge of the trail that the yellow jackets appear to have abandoned. That may have been the issue in the earlier race. We both rode by and stood on the trail and they did not get feisty with us at all. It looks like a sizable nest beneath the log. If anyone smacks into the log, them critters are going to be pissed off. Also, they get more aggressive as it is getting dark and they are all coming home for the night, but it really did look (to me) like the issue was the hole that was right on the edge of the trail... or, if any one has the front wheel smack the log, good luck.

[TiRyder]

I am not doing the series this year, but If I had a vote, I would say that whoever has the slowest lap time from all the classes has to move the bees.

I had to deal with a nest about 3-4 weeks before the Bakers Dozen and got stung several times - not fun.

[MyOtherBrotherL]

MAN - What a GREAT race last night.

I've never pushed myself SOOOO hard in my life (And for 4th place too!).

By the time I crossed the finish line EVEN my teeth were hurting :eek:

[atlantis]

People were MUCH faster last night than last week by my pass-o-meter, I was passed WAY more times, by a mix of the SS types and a few masters I think. A few less riders at least in Beginners this week may have also contributed to faster laps also, as less passing (work).

[vamodeo]

I have them. I sent them to PVC to get posted to the website. They said they would be there tonite. Also sent them to Scud so he could post them here. I don't know how to upload files. Can anyone help?

Vj

[brcire]

MAN - What a GREAT race last night.

I've never pushed myself SOOOO hard in my life (And for 4th place too!).

By the time I crossed the finish line EVEN my teeth were hurting :eek:

AGREED. I just luv this race series. While I avoid the pressures of the podium ;):D;), I continue to try and push myself to get a little better, faster, stronger each time.

And I have not experienced problems with anybody. Everybody I meet on the course during the races (and afterwards) has been real friendly, even in requesting to pass or being passed. Even the bees didn't bother me or the others with me when we passed them :D:p.

[vamodeo]

I put the results up here. They will be on the PVC site tonite.

http://mysite.verizon.net/vzevfi5x/id1.html

[mtnbkr]

Thanks for posting so quickly! This formatting is much nicer.

[brcire]

I put the results up here. They will be on the PVC site tonite.

http://mysite.verizon.net/vzevfi5x/id1.html

Yeah, this is great! With lap times as well! THANKS!

[walsh]

Tuxedo Steve - how are you doing, man? You had me a little worried.

[vamodeo]

I was able to resurrect lap times for the WaW #1 & #2 6pm races. The 7pm race database was too screwed up.

http://mysite.verizon.net/vzevfi5x/id1.html

Vj

[mtnbkr]

Looks great. Wish you could salvage the 7pm times.

[chowderbutt]

the lap times for the 5:30 were super accurate thanks to my high falluting swatch watch :eek:

actually some of the little grommets are turning fast lap times at the 5:30. I don't know if they could keep it up for multiple laps however.

[mtbmore]

"WaW Series Finale!
The Single Speeders started the drag race tradition, but this year PVC encourages all racers to get creative for the series finale. Several prizes will be raffled off during the awards ceremonies. Racers in costume (or dresses) will receive a raffle ticket. Don't miss the final race of the series!"

We will also have our Finale tradition of watermelon for the both races.

See you all there. We do not have Kilroy's reserved for next Wed but tradition does have us going there after the awrds are done.

Scud your friendly announcer

[walsh]

Contemplating bringing the fixed-up Gangster of Love tomorrow.

Anyone else interested in taking a stand against coasting? Ricky, Stoner, Mr. Camp?? Let's turn it up to eleven.:D

[Trailcreep]

As of tuesday morning the course is in great shape. The bees are still active so be carefull preriding in that area.

[chowderbutt]

Hey Walsh,

hows the fix gear do in crowds? i would imagine passing is fun.

[joep]

Contemplating bringing the fixed-up Gangster of Love tomorrow.

Anyone else interested in taking a stand against coasting? Ricky, Stoner, Mr. Camp?? Let's turn it up to eleven.:D

Great idea. I'm in.

[tuba_transport]

How about a race for last place. See who can break the 2 hour mark! I should bring this Singlespeed.
http://www.more-mtb.org/galleries/gal_imgs/5/0/2/bikeman.jpg

[camp]

...Anyone else interested in taking a stand against coasting? Ricky, Stoner, Mr. Camp?? Let's turn it up to eleven.:DAhhh, my fixy is set up for townie use right now, big gear and skinny tires. I just switched out my Michaux cog for a WF cog last night. I'll be coastin'....

[walsh]

Great idea. I'm in.

Alright! I'll have to put some race air in the 'Goose's tires tonight.

[plojaa]

As of tuesday morning the course is in great shape. The bees are still active so be carefull preriding in that area.

Amazing...it was NOT rideable 24 hrs earlier.....all the standing water is gone and the mud has dried...WOW!

[Trailcreep]

Yep..it's pretty amazing what you can do with a bucket in a couple hours.



Amazing...it was NOT rideable 24 hrs earlier.....all the standing water is gone and the mud has dried...WOW!

[tuba_transport]

Yep..it's pretty amazing what you can do with a bucket in a couple hours.

Ahhh. My honeymoon. :psweet, sweet memories.

[MyOtherBrotherL]

Yep..it's pretty amazing what you can do with a bucket in a couple hours.

(((((SHUDDER)))))

The memories and the pain............................

Your a good man Mike - My bucket days are OVER....................

[werace424]

Yep..it's pretty amazing what you can do with a bucket in a couple hours.

Thank you Mike! Once again dedicated volunteers makin' it happen! See you there!

[chowderbutt]

ditto on the kudos mike, the trails have been excellent for this series. see everyone tonight.

[tonyfromdc]

Instant gratification.

A few pictures of the 6:00 race are here (http://picasaweb.google.com/AntonyBarsi/WW42008?authkey=n_rDy1dfEH4).

Warning: adult content, men in drag. (Which smiley face should go here :eek::rolleyes::D)

[vamodeo]

I posted results from WaW #4 here:

http://mysite.verizon.net/vzevfi5x/id1.html

Results should be up on the PVC site tonite.

http://www.potomacvelo.com

[joep]

Instant gratification.

A few pictures of the 6:00 race are here (http://picasaweb.google.com/AntonyBarsi/WW42008?authkey=n_rDy1dfEH4).

Warning: adult content, men in drag. (Which smiley face should go here :eek::rolleyes::D)

This picture (http://picasaweb.google.com/AntonyBarsi/WW42008/photo?authkey=n_rDy1dfEH4#522379503 6518479634) should be the poster for next year's series.

[Dr Phil mmkay]

This picture (http://picasaweb.google.com/AntonyBarsi/WW42008/photo?authkey=n_rDy1dfEH4#522379503 6518479634) should be the poster for next year's series.

*shudders* Thank God there's not enough lighting. BTW, was that you at FH last Sunday with a dainty white corset?:)

[tuba_transport]

This picture (http://picasaweb.google.com/AntonyBarsi/WW42008/photo?authkey=n_rDy1dfEH4#522379503 6518479634) should be the poster for next year's series.

That's hot.

[wrench177]

This picture (http://picasaweb.google.com/AntonyBarsi/WW42008/photo?authkey=n_rDy1dfEH4#522379503 6518479634) should be the poster for next year's series.
Argh.....my eyes!!! That picture should come with a surgeon generals warning label or something. :D

[mark w]

who'd a thunk an upskirt pic could be so terrifying....:eek:

[joep]

*shudders* Thank God there's not enough lighting. BTW, was that you at FH last Sunday with a dainty white corset?:)

Yes, that was me on a "practice" run. Since the WaW series is over, I'm trying hard to think of an excuse to wear it on tonight's ride.

Helloooo nurse (http://picasaweb.google.com/AntonyBarsi/WW42008/photo?authkey=n_rDy1dfEH4#522379341 1425267586)...

[walsh]

who'd a thunk an upskirt pic could be so terrifying....:eek:

Maybe this (http://picasaweb.google.com/AntonyBarsi/WW42008/photo?authkey=n_rDy1dfEH4#522379492 6621296018) will even the balance. What's more manly than senseless bloodshed? (Particularly your own?)

[29x1]

This picture (http://picasaweb.google.com/AntonyBarsi/WW42008/photo?authkey=n_rDy1dfEH4#522379503 6518479634) should be the poster for next year's series.

Is that moose knuckle or camel toe?
Ricky seems to get all the press these days.

[joep]

I posted results from WaW #4 here:

http://mysite.verizon.net/vzevfi5x/id1.html

Results should be up on the PVC site tonite.

http://www.potomacvelo.com

Whoa. I'm three minutes slower in the fourth race (fixie) compared to the third race (wussy freewheel), whereas Walsh only dropped 1 second in going from free to fixed!

[checking laws of physics...] How'd he do that?!? :confused:

[walsh]

[checking laws of physics...] How'd he do that?!? :confused:

Women's clothing trumps physics - and reason - any day. (Exhibit A: high heels. Exhibit B: underwires.) :D

Seriously, the only place the fixed wheel messes with me is the rooty 495 creek crossing, but it allows an additional level of control in the sketchy corners that can't be beat. You wouldn't autocross in a car with an automatic transmission, right? Instead of grabbing brakes, you just relax a little to manage speed, like downshifting.

[taocat]

Near the end of my last lap in the 35+ race last night, my seat came loose. I left it until this morning to fix, and while tightening it up I discovered some play in my rear suspension. I was worried that the bushings were shot again (I just had them replaced a few months ago) but closer inspection revealed that the linkage bolt connecting the rear shock to the link was sheared off in the middle - half the bolt was gone and the only thing holding the rear end of the bike together was the threaded portion of the bolt. I took it to the Bike Lane today and they discovered that (probably after the bolt sheared off) the linkage itself is cracked and almost broken in half! :eek: Scary to think what would have happened if it had all come apart while I was bombing down through the woods!

[atlantis]

Wow, that is scary! A good friend of mine lost his front wheel this week after a previously unknown crack in his QR up front.